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Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:16 am to ladytiger118
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Not to sound like a Hodor, but are the Iron Islands not going to be affected by it since they're in the sea? Or will the Night King freeze all bodies of water so that places like Bear Island, the Iron Islands, etc. will be affected too by him?
Littlefinger will probably make a deal with the NK to procure and crew ships for him in exchange for LF being kept alive and named king of an empty Westeros.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:32 am to Methuselah
quote:few things would upset me more than something like that. I want the Night King to be completely unapproachable, and deal death out unilaterally.
Littlefinger will probably make a deal with the NK to procure and crew ships for him in exchange for LF being kept alive and named king of an empty Westeros.
But that being said, Craster was able to reach an agreement with him, so maybe it's possible.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:39 am to Scoob
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:02 am to OMLandshark
By the way, I just remembered something where the show very directly shows us that Bran can see the future at least somewhat: he sees the blowing of the wildfyre in the Sept of Baelor.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:07 am to ladytiger118
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Not to sound like a Hodor, but are the Iron Islands not going to be affected by it since they're in the sea? Or will the Night King freeze all bodies of water so that places like Bear Island, the Iron Islands, etc. will be affected too by him?
As a hodor, I'm glad you asked, because I've always been curious about that as well. Just pictured the iron born sitting there thinking "sucks to be them"
But I agree with the comment above. NK will have some sort of power that will ensure that no one is safe.
In other news, had a free trial for audible and a lot of driving ahead, so I started GoT. going to see how it goes, and likely buy the series in books. Hopefully I'll be done by Christmas with plenty of time to join in on complaints that GRRM needs to hurry the frick up.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:11 am to OMLandshark
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I don't think there will be that many dead south of the Wall. Keep in mind Dany did largely took care of the casualties south of the Wall by lighting them on fire. I'm just thinking a few dozen dead people and some animals, with the exception of one place being a notable exception (Casterly Rock would be my guess).
I dunno. We saw at Bran and company's approach to the cave of the 3ER that even skeletons can reanimate and have full locomotion. Proving, I guess, that their movement is wholly magical and doesn't require any musculature. I'd think there are lots of bodies that are at least skeletons many places down south from the recent wars and starvations, etc. Not sure how long a skeleton lasts on average.
Then again, the hand that Mormont sent south with Thorne did rot away (and apparently quit moving) after Tyrion put him in a cell for a long time before seeing him. I'm not sure that was ever put in the show though.
It's either a book/show inconsistency or maybe it can be explained by something like the cold the walkers bring has to be there for something to reanimate.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:22 am to Methuselah
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It's either a book/show inconsistency or maybe it can be explained by something like the cold the walkers bring has to be there for something to reanimate.
We already know wights can animate past the wall.
John killed one in Mormont's chambers and the NK was considerably farther away.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:22 am to OMLandshark
That Jaime video was dope
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:26 am to Methuselah
quote:If the Night King ends up being able to animate and control dead stuff all over, we then get some interesting options:
Then again, the hand that Mormont sent south with Thorne did rot away (and apparently quit moving) after Tyrion put him in a cell for a long time before seeing him. I'm not sure that was ever put in the show though.
Jon IS dead, so to speak. Maybe he gets hacked (I think the premise would be similar to the DC comics with the Black Lantern story, where anyone who once died would be vulnerable to flipping).
On a more goofy level, what happened to Jaime's hand, and Theon's penis? I don't think they were burned... can they also reanimate? Will Theon's penis overthrow Euron in the Iron Islands?
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:27 am to Scoob
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Will Theon's penis overthrow Euron in the Iron Islands?
That would be a dick move.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:31 am to OMLandshark
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Jaime Lannister | Oathbreaker
For whatever reason, this reminds me of something - Ice was melted down to forge Oathkeeper and Widow's Wail. Has to be a metaphor in there somewhere. Oathkeeper is now constructively in the hands of (and at the service of) House Stark. Assuming Jaime (dead or alive) is in Targ hands now, what happens to that sword?
Can be argued it's rightfully Jon's - although he has Longclaw, via the Old Bear. Jorah is inbound...
Interesting - as we do know these blades are fairly important to the upcoming struggle.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:32 am to OMLandshark
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By the way, I just remembered something where the show very directly shows us that Bran can see the future at least somewhat: he sees the blowing of the wildfyre in the Sept of Baelor.
Not only that. The TER told Bran that he would never walk again but that he would fly. This clearly indicates future events. I'm just not sure Bran is able to distinguish past/present from the future quite yet.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:34 am to Ace Midnight
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Assuming Jaime (dead or alive) is in Targ hands now, what happens to that sword?
If Jaime goes to the Wall, I'm sure Jaime would give it to the Hound for the foreseeable future. Who better than him to wield a Valyrian Steel sword against the Walkers?
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:35 am to Fewer Kilometers
I was just joking of course, but if you really think about it all...
the Night King DID reach a deal with Craster. So he does have some level of intrigue potential, and not just lead a mindless horde of destruction.
Seriously, if you're Jaime or Theon, and the offer is to return your good hand or your dick, that has to be an offer at least worth considering. Theon, in particular.
Of course, it being a rotting part would be a bummer, but if you can get an appendage that is completely WW, and not necrotic, it might be tempting.
the Night King DID reach a deal with Craster. So he does have some level of intrigue potential, and not just lead a mindless horde of destruction.
Seriously, if you're Jaime or Theon, and the offer is to return your good hand or your dick, that has to be an offer at least worth considering. Theon, in particular.
Of course, it being a rotting part would be a bummer, but if you can get an appendage that is completely WW, and not necrotic, it might be tempting.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:35 am to Scoob
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Will Theon's penis overthrow Euron in the Iron Islands?
Here's an interesting question.
If Euron dies, does Yara take control of the Iron Islands? Would simply killing Euron essentially flip the Iron Islands from Cersi to Dany?
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:36 am to MardiGrasRazorback
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The TER told Bran that he would never walk again but that he would fly.
This is usually interpreted as he will be able to warg or at least see from the perspective of a flying animal. Many believe this means he will warg into a dragon. The potential to ride is still there with Tyrion's saddle design, but there seems little reason for him to ride if he can warg into a dragon as he did Summer.
A normal warg would probably have to stay close. Bran probably has nearly unlimited warging abilities once he learns how to do it properly.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:39 am to OMLandshark
Jaime - simply one of the most complex and interesting characters in literary fiction. I never get tired of his chapters.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:42 am to RuLSU
quote:wouldn't the Ironborn have to do their choosing ritual all over? They didn't just hand Euron the crown, he had to challenge, 'drown', etc.
Here's an interesting question.
If Euron dies, does Yara take control of the Iron Islands? Would simply killing Euron essentially flip the Iron Islands from Cersi to Dany?
If Euron goes down, I'd guess both sides would recruit candidates, but it's up to the locals.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:45 am to Scoob
I kind of wish the TV series had been in somewhat of a Doctor Who type format where it goes on and on for many seasons, but it does go by the books and has all of the minutia and detailed backstories and all of the side characters. Even if D&D had to give up being the showrunners, another person takes the helm and keeps it going. That would be awesome. I miss some of the side plots of the books like Victarion (if you consider that a side plot), Jon Con, etc.
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