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re: GoT "Middle Ground" Thread - Between Seasons Discussion ***Spoilers Possible***
Posted on 6/21/13 at 9:13 pm to ellunchboxo
Posted on 6/21/13 at 9:13 pm to ellunchboxo
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It's implied in the books. HBO did it for shock value.
Yeah, I can see where it was implied. With the "Rainbow" guard and also when they brought up the past of him and his characteristics and that of his 2 older brothers, them being more "masculine" and "stern" if you will. But I thought there would be an actual thing between him and the Knight of Flowers in the actual book.
Was it also implied that Loras was this way too? The only thing I guess they could base it on was the whole flower thing, but besides that, I really don't see where they can throw a storyline like that on him.
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Posted on 6/22/13 at 12:17 pm to GCTiger11
I'm on book 3, and I felt the whole Renly Loras relationship was nowhere near what the show made it to be. Sure, we can assume he may have been gay in the books, but GRRM never explicitly stated it. To be honest not much, if anything, was stated about the Margaery being his beard deal.
This post was edited on 6/22/13 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 6/22/13 at 3:56 pm to ladytiger118
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I'm on book 3, and I felt the whole Renly Loras relationship was nowhere near what the show made it to be. Sure, we can assume he may have been gay in the books, but GRRM never explicitly stated it. To be honest not much, if anything, was stated about the Margaery being his beard deal.
The relationship is mainly connected via comments from various other characters in the books. In the second book when Stannis and Renly meet Renly talks about his new maiden bride, and Stannis makes a crack about "And in your bed she'll likely remain one". That's one of he first hints about Renly.
Later on in the books there is a comment from Jaime to Loras that makes the relationship between Renly and Loras quite obvious.
There are a few other things, but those are the two big ones.
This post was edited on 6/22/13 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 6/23/13 at 9:47 am to auyushu
I still think hbo took their liberties with the relationship though 
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Posted on 7/2/13 at 6:18 pm to ladytiger118
i'm about a quarter of the way through book 3 and haven't yet decided if i'm going to continue past where season 3 ended. can anyone tell me around where in a storm of swords does new shite that hasn't happened yet start? I know the chapters really don't follow a direct timeline when they jumped between characters but where would the stopping point be if I wanted to stop where season 3 did?
Posted on 7/2/13 at 6:37 pm to Fearthehat0307
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i'm about a quarter of the way through book 3 and haven't yet decided if i'm going to continue past where season 3 ended. can anyone tell me around where in a storm of swords does new shite that hasn't happened yet start? I know the chapters really don't follow a direct timeline when they jumped between characters but where would the stopping point be if I wanted to stop where season 3 did?
It's really hard to point to a specific spot where season 3 stopped. Bran's storyline from ASOS, for example, was covered in its entirety during this season. Other storylines stopped about 2/3 of the way through the book.
Just read the whole book. You wont be disappointed. It's seriously one of the best fantasy books ever written (and one of the most entertaining I've ever read).
Posted on 7/2/13 at 6:54 pm to pistolsfiring11
quote:my thing is I enjoy watching the show and being surprised at what happens. i'm sure I will still enjoy the show even if I know what's coming but it takes away the shock factor which I like.
Just read the whole book. You wont be disappointed
Posted on 7/6/13 at 6:25 pm to Fearthehat0307
alright non hodors I've just gotten to the mhysa mhysa mhysa moment in ASOS. my question still hasn't been answered to my satisfaction. if i don't want to see any spoilers from next season is this where i should stop? i still haven't gotten to the red wedding though which i'm guessing is Chapter 51 because that's catelyn's final chapter in the book. i'm on 43 now. i know there is more from the season that i haven't read yet but where is the 1st chapter that will tell me something that i may not want to be spoiled?
Posted on 7/6/13 at 6:38 pm to Fearthehat0307
Read through the RW (Arya chapter) atleast. After that do whatever you want, but you should probably just finish the book rather than stop part way though just to wait another 8/9 months.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 6:42 pm to BlackleafBaller
quote:I've been over this. i haven't decided if i want to continue or stop yet. i enjoy not knowing what's going to happen next on the show reading past season 3 will take that experience away from me. haven't made up my mind yet though.
but you should probably just finish the book rather than stop part way though just to wait another 8/9 months.
so there is no new info between ch. 43 and 51 (RW)?
Posted on 7/6/13 at 6:51 pm to Fearthehat0307
Understandable. Up until the Arya chapter i menioned its all stuff you've seen in the show (slightly varied). Actually just skimmed through you can read up until Davos where he mentions reading a letter (chapter 54). After that its "new" stuff (Jon Snow).
ETA- one of the Jon snow chapters before the RW is new information but its around the time where they ended on the show with his story so it won't be anything ground breaking...I'd stop where it picks up after that Davos chapter though.
ETA- one of the Jon snow chapters before the RW is new information but its around the time where they ended on the show with his story so it won't be anything ground breaking...I'd stop where it picks up after that Davos chapter though.
This post was edited on 7/6/13 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 7/6/13 at 6:54 pm to BlackleafBaller
quote:i love you
Understandable. Up until the Arya chapter i menioned its all stuff you've seen in the show (slightly varied). Actually just skimmed through you can read up until Davos where he mentions reading a letter (chapter 54). After that its "new" stuff (Jon Snow)
i been asking this question for a while now in different threads. you are the first one to give me the answer i wanted.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 6:58 pm to Fearthehat0307
quote:
i love you
I just love his avatar.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 7:04 pm to PsychTiger
quote:that too
I just love his avatar.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 7:04 pm to BlackleafBaller
quote:as long as it's no big reveals it's cool
ETA- one of the Jon snow chapters before the RW is new information but its around the time where they ended on the show with his story so it won't be anything ground breaking
Posted on 7/6/13 at 7:04 pm to Fearthehat0307
Posted on 7/6/13 at 7:08 pm to BlackleafBaller
eta: This thread just got immeasurably better.
This post was edited on 7/6/13 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 7/6/13 at 7:10 pm to Fearthehat0307
quote:I had this problem too. I ended up saying frick it, and now I'm over halfway done with A Feast for Crows.
I've been over this. i haven't decided if i want to continue or stop yet. i enjoy not knowing what's going to happen next on the show reading past season 3 will take that experience away from me. haven't made up my mind yet though.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 7:11 pm to GCTiger11
Did you regret your decision to continue reading or are you happy you did? Fear might find that opinion useful as he struggles with his own decision.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 7:15 pm to PsychTiger
quote:right now i'm leaning towards stopping. the show is just to entertaining too be spoiled for me
Fear might find that opinion useful as he struggles with his own decision.
This post was edited on 7/6/13 at 7:16 pm
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