re: Game of Thrones S6:E5 "The Door" Bookreader Thread

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If all The Nights King needed to do is touch someone who then crosses the wall, then why wouldn't he have just done that shite with some member of the Nights Watch who was ranging beyond the wall? Capture them, touch them, allow them to "escape", eureka.

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I have a feeling that it's probably not that simple. The Others have been able to create more Others from regular people (specifically touching them) so it seems to be something different. I wonder if it maybe has to do with Bran being a greenseer and doing it at the right place/right time.

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So since I'm not lookin through a frick ton of pages I'm just going to ask where the frick are Yara and Theon going?

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I wondered this, and re-watched yesterday to see that slight curve the ships were taking-seemed like they focused on that for a reason...

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If they set sail from Pyke (Eastern coast), they are headed due South: Essos via Broken Arm of Dorne.

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The Kingsmoot is held on Old Wyck (Western coast). If that is where they sailed from, their course would be North.

Eastwatch by-the-Sea?

Theon going to help Jon and Sansa?
I don't see Asha going for that...

All depends on where most of the "Best ships" were docked. I would drive my Sunday ride to something shmancy like a Kingsmoot, wouldn't you?



ETA: I know E from W, my edit didn't take.
I'm sure someone will have jumped on it by now.

ETA 2: alot of maps vary in distance between the Isles. I concede it looks more like they headed E from Old Wyk and turned South, skirting the N coast of Pyke, as you can see the NE tip of Great Wyk off their Port side.

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I wonder if it maybe has to do with Bran being a greenseer and doing it at the right place/right time.

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I said this pages ago, but it was at the bottom of a page so probably missed.

I really wonder if Bran was in the past when he was touched. The white walkers seemed like they were just waiting for something. Bran then shows up and is touched by the Nights King. This in my mind explains how they showed up so quickly at the tree. This whole time they've been going their knowing that is where Bran will be. Bran himself might have been the catalyst that started the winter. They need him to be touched.

The wall is protected by magic? I just thought it was a big arse wall of ice?

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The white walkers seemed like they were just waiting for something. Bran then shows up and is touched by the Nights King. This in my mind explains how they showed up so quickly at the tree. This whole time they've been going their knowing that is where Bran will be. Bran himself might have been the catalyst that started the winter. They need him to be touched.

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they were also waiting for him to arrive and tried to stop him

Day one of training should have included "Don't let the NK touch you."

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I definitely think Benjen was the one who placed the cache of dragon glass for the Nights Watch to find back in S2.

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I don't know if he did or not but Jon and company certainly screwed that up, leaving a bunch (maybe all?) of it in Hardhome. I gotta think they put that in the show for a reason. It'll probably come back to bit them later on.

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they were also waiting for him to arrive and tried to stop him

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I'm missing something here...

Tried to stop him? The only thing I saw was that the Nights King touched him. Bran was the only way that the Nights King could get to Bloodraven.

When Bran was touched it wasn't a vision, there haven't been visions since before he started tapping into the roots of the tree. He was witnessing an event in the past. That event resembled an Army set to march.

I dunno maybe I'm reading too much into it. I just was grasping to explain all of the events of that scene + the Nights King showing up so quickly at the tree.

ETA: Are you referring to the wights that attacked when Bran arrived at the tree? If the wights are a hive mind, then the King should have already known he was there and bloodravens comment about "he knows you're here" was pointless.

I am starting to think that the wights can be controlled directly by NK, thus Bran will eventually learn to control them also.

They were all facing one direction and standing still, and then as soon as the NK sees Bran they are all turned and staring at him. Hive mind = they all attack as soon as they see him; Mind control = they all move at the exact time the controller sees BRan

that's how I read the situation too. The way I viewed it is that Bran still had Hodor under his influence and was controlling him.

Could be wrong, the whole visiting the past and warging into past hodor is very confusing. I'm sure the book will explain it better if we ever get it.