re: Game of Thrones S5:E5:"Kill the Boy", HODORS ONLY(No Book Readers)

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by wildtigercat93
Probably from the fact that the gray scaled people acted like wild animals with rabies last week

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This cocomo.. The theory kind of came up in discussion on greyscale because the stonemen were acting like wild rabid animals

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Why would it be when it, the theory, can be backed up with material from the show?

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NM

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What conclusions did you draw from the conversation between Baelish and Sansa in the crypt, esp the part about Rhaegar giving Lyanna flowers instead of his wife and the look on Littlefingers face when Sansa said that Rhaegar then kidnapped Lyanna and raped her.

And then when Stannis commented to his wife that fricking some random "wasn't Ned Starks way"

Plus the interest that the red witch and Stannis have taken in Jon Snow, not to mention he's still alive while what we thought would turn out to be major players like Rob King of the North Stark is dead.

That didn't/hasnt set off any bells with anyone else?

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It's easy to deduce this when you already know the theory.

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Outside of the fact that R+L=J is being brought up in every other post. I thought it was determined that R+L=J was off limits in this thread...no?

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Bookreaders posting in the thread period is off limits. Don't go in here and set rules. You are one of us. :lolL

Back on topic:

shite is about to go down in Winterfell. Stannis, the Boltens, Sansa, Theon, and Brienne all in the same place at the same time. One of these characters has got to die soon. I'm hoping for the Boltens obviously.

With Sir Bareston dead, grew worm injured, and Jorah a potential stone man, could it be that Varys and Tyrion basically become her small council? Would make her story so much more interesting. What they could teach her about whispers and politics would be a very good lesson for her.

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That didn't/hasnt set off any bells with anyone else?

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Sure, but of course it will set off bells if you've already known about "the theory" before. Taking all of that on face value within the show and jumping to the theory on your own is not what happened.

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Bookreaders posting in the thread period is off limits. Don't go in here and set rules. You are one of us. :lolL

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So why is your name all over this thread, Nap?

Seems like no matter what, the book readers can't stay in their own thread and leave us Hodors alone to try to figure shite out (no matter how intelligently or stupidly we try).

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Well it seems like hers was contained. Stannis had a bunch of maesters do everything possible to save her.

I don't think she is the usual case of greyscale, just like if the son of a president got the same cancer as a kid from the Bronx did. It's just not the same level of "doom" for that person

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I don't completely disagree with you, but I'm just not willing to jump in and say that greyscale makes you crazy. For all we know, the stone men in Valyria attack anybody that tries to pass through, and tries to either kill them and/or steal their shite. For all we know, the stone men are just assholes due to being banished to Valyria for life and they're basically vandals.

Again, I wouldn't be against rolling with greyscale making people mad, I'd just like to go on more than just seeing a fwe stone men attack the boat.

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shite is about to go down in Winterfell. Stannis, the Boltens, Sansa, Theon, and Brienne all in the same place at the same time. One of these characters has got to die soon. I'm hoping for the Boltens obviously.

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Agreed. I still hate Theon, but I admittedly would like to see him get his revenge on Ramsay...only to then turn around and get got by Sansa getting her revenge. And then right before he dies, he spills the beans that Bran and Rickon are alive.

I could see something like that happening in the finale of this season; like that being the final scene for that storyline. I could even see a quick glance at Bran/Rickon as the season ends (I know they've said we won't see them, but who knows).

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With Sir Bareston dead, grew worm injured, and Jorah a potential stone man, could it be that Varys and Tyrion basically become her small council? Would make her story so much more interesting. What they could teach her about whispers and politics would be a very good lesson for her.

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I could get down with that. Tyrion and Varys are two of the show's better characters. So not only would they make Dany's story WAY more interesting, but they could also school her on politics and teach her how to play the game. Especially since they (Tyrion with his own eyes, but surely Varys as well) know that the dragons are real and how much that fact vaults Dany to the frontrunner for capturing the Iron Throne.

Them finally getting to Dany is one scene I'm dying to see actually...that has to play out pretty cool on TV once it happens. And hopefully Varys will be there as well (maybe he either knows that jorah has Tyrion or he just continues on his quest to Dany anyway).

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You askec me a direct question, so I am bound to have to answer.
I have three posts in the thread, he has three posts on this page.
I am not having show discussions. I just told him to get out. Then I am responding to you and another (first) post was to point out that someone was calling something a spoiler that's not even in the books.

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You did ask him to leave, which is fine. I'm just saying I remember seeing your name before that post, and you even say that bookreaders shouldn't be in here at all. Yet here we have two readers having a conversation in here. That's all I'm saying.

And you definitely are having "show discussions." You have a post in this thread telling people to go watch a certain clip on youtube, and that it's "from the first book in the first season," but that it was cut from the show...and it is one source of one of the theories. And you then answer a question about the Stannis/Davos conversation for clarification and tell us that it was "nothing important."

Don't you sort of see the problem there? The whole point of this thread is to not have readers in it AT ALL, let alone readers in here trying to point us in the right direction on things or clarify things for us.

And I'm seriously not trying to be a dick at all (or mad at you, or bitching at you, etc.), so hopefully that's not how it seems. I'm just saying..

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whatever. this is the last year of the Hodor thread anyway (thank god)

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Doubtful. There will still need to be at least two threads IMO. The separate threads weren't created for "spoilers" as much as they were created to people with similar knowledge of the series could discuss it with their counterparts (readers, semi-readers, and nonreaders).