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re: Game of Thrones S5:E4:"The Sons of the Harpy", HODORS ONLY(No Readers/Leakers)
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:22 am to wildtigercat93
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:22 am to wildtigercat93
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I don't think he gives a shite about his brothels now
I disagree.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:23 am to Funky Tide 8
Why would he care? He has much higher goals than being a pimp these days
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:29 am to wildtigercat93
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He has much higher goals than being a pimp these days
He has had much higher goals the whole series, yet he has kept his brothels, which means that they hold some kind of importance to him.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:31 am to Funky Tide 8
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He has had much higher goals the whole series, yet he has kept his brothels, which means that they hold some kind of importance to him.
Information would be one important reason to keep the brothels.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:37 am to nes2010
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Information would be one important reason to keep the brothels.
Exactly. Information and also gaining favor with "influential" people. LF doesn't have "birdies" like Varys, and isn't high born like everyone else in the game where he can gain influence. His brothels are still relevant for both of those.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:38 am to nes2010
And the fact that the worker exclaimed that "this is Lord Baelish's establishment!" or whatever means that there was an agreement between Petyr and the council that his brothels were a protected entity. A promise that was broken with little regard.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:43 am to Funky Tide 8
But even if his brothels are still important to him, I'm sure he (1) already knows what is going on, and (2) is more than willing to use this for his advantage. He may faint being mad when he reaching KL, but I'm sure deep down he isn't upset all that much. Heck, he probably is having to hide a smile because he knows that all the Lannisters need now is a little "shove" from him and they'll all fall like dominos. His ability to play them was just made a whole lot easier with this series of events, one would think.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:48 am to Funky Tide 8
You think they are important enough to him that hell risk everything he's built and his life to save them?
He's going to kings landing to keep the lannisters at bay while he continues to scheme. He's not going with the intention of causing any drama. Especially not against a militant that has targeted his establishment and has the free reign to throw him into a black cell beneath the keep
He's going to kings landing to keep the lannisters at bay while he continues to scheme. He's not going with the intention of causing any drama. Especially not against a militant that has targeted his establishment and has the free reign to throw him into a black cell beneath the keep
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:49 am to wildtigercat93
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You think they are important enough to him that hell risk everything he's built and his life to save them?
lol no, and I never said that at all.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:51 am to Funky Tide 8
Well that's what happens if he tries to go against the faith militant. So again, I don't think hell give a shite.
I think that little blonde guys gonna run up to him like he's the savior and then he's gonna turn him over to the militant and close down his brothels to keep the peace
I think that little blonde guys gonna run up to him like he's the savior and then he's gonna turn him over to the militant and close down his brothels to keep the peace
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:57 am to wildtigercat93
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Well that's what happens if he tries to go against the faith militant. So again, I don't think hell give a shite.
He never just straight up goes against anyone. He is a master of careful manipulation, I just think that it will make it easier for him to do whatever he is going to do to frick over the Lannisters. I never said that I think that he will go on a rampage over it.
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I think that little blonde guys gonna run up to him like he's the savior and then he's gonna turn him over to the militant and close down his brothels to keep the peace
I think he realizes that it is only a short matter of time before "the peace" is let go, so I don't think peace is really a part of his plans....
This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:03 pm to Funky Tide 8
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He never just straight up goes against anyone. He is a master of careful manipulation, I just think that it will make it easier for him to do whatever he is going to do to frick over the Lannisters. I never said that I think that he will go on a rampage over it.
You aren't going to arbitrate with religious militants that's the issue, not the lannisters
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I think he realizes that it is only a short matter of time before "the peace" is let go, so I don't think peace is really a part of his plans....
Certainly he knows they will be foes soon, but he's not going to start that bag of shite at Kings Landing, with himself and a few Eyrie soldiers. He saw that mistake get made by Ned in season 1 and saw his head cut off for it
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:17 pm to wildtigercat93
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You aren't going to arbitrate with religious militants that's the issue, not the lannisters
Cersai set the whole thing up with the religious militants, and instructed the soldiers to turn a blind eye.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:26 pm to Funky Tide 8
When will we see Jon Umber again?
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:33 pm to rondo
Maybe if Sansa or Jon Snow rallies the old Stark bannermen to drive the Boltons out of Winterfell. Otherwise I don't see him having any part to play. I think he is currently hiding Rickon (and the wildling girl), but Rickon is just too darn young to have any real impact on the story at this point so I don't see him coming out of hiding anytime soon.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:36 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Cersai set the whole thing up with the religious militants,
Doesn't mean she can control them
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:48 pm to wildtigercat93
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Doesn't mean she can control them
Holy crap I wonder if Lancel is going to turn them all against her. That would just be awesome if Cersei gets imprisoned by the same monks she empowered.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 1:55 pm to gorillacoco
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Doesn't mean she can control them
Holy crap I wonder if Lancel is going to turn them all against her. That would just be awesome if Cersei gets imprisoned by the same monks she empowered.
I think that's coming.. Lancel will take her down for her incestuous ways and redeem himself from that as well with it. Maybe Baelish brings this on when he gets to kings landing (if he knows, maybe only Tyrion knew?) as retribution for his brothels.. Like "oh your so holy but this this and this.."
Also I do disagree that Baelish doesn't care about his brothers.. Source of information, a way to maintain power and standing with some highborn for "favors" and the like.. But what about constant revenue stream? Sure he has a lot more land, power, money and titles than he did as an upstart but why would one want a solid revenue stream cut off, one that helped build him to that stature.
Also I thought he know what was going on in KL? Didn't he say something about Cersai to Sansa before he left about a message he got via raven? I thought he knew he was being messed with over there which is why he's going there.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 2:18 pm to freeagent
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Also I thought he know what was going on in KL? Didn't he say something about Cersai to Sansa before he left about a message he got via raven? I thought he knew he was being messed with over there which is why he's going there.
He said he was going so he didn't raise any suspicions of what he was doing in the north. Which is why I don't think he will raise hell over his brothels.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 2:31 pm to CocomoLSU
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Several times. He's always seemed pretty taken by Sansa IMO. Now, that could obviously just be him playing her to make her think that...but I always found him to be drawn to her in a very similar way as to her mother.
And this is where I part ways with some of you. I think Sansa is just a means to an end for LF. Does he have lust for her? Maybe. But how much love can he really feel for someone who he has left in the care of someone who is a sociopath and the other the murderer of half her family?
In fact, I still could see the Red Wedding 2.0 taking place. Not because of his feelings that he has/had for Catelyn but just as another move playing the game. He could garner support from the Northerners who "havent forgotten."
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