re: Game of Thrones S4:E3:"Breaker of Chains", HODORS ONLY (no book readers)

He tested him back in season two as part of his marrying Myrcella to the different Houses, spy flush out with Varys and Pycelle. Littlefinger didn't appreciate it, but I think Littlefinger just sees his framing as a way to get rid of another strong operator.

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I can't recall, does Littlefinger even have any beef with Tyrion?

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I can't think of any. Obviously they would interact regularly (even outside of the whorehouse that Tyrion used to patronize) but I can't think of an instance in which they have directly opposed one another.

There was however a conversation between Varys and Tyrion that I still think was interesting. Varys rarely opens up and takes sides but within the limits of possible friendship I think he and Tyrion would be considered friends and Varys would be Littlefinger's biggest detractor (and certainly Littlefinger is smart enough to know this).

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I don't believe anybody else was present at that conversation so Littlefinger wouldn't know what was said. He probably knew about Joffrey trying to kill Tyrion but I still think that's a long way from knowing that regardless of what happened at the feast Tyrion was going to get the blame.

I mean, if Joffrey doesn't sit up and point at him does Cersie ever even blame him? Idk.

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Cersei had always hated Tyrion for killing their mother in childbirth, and I'm sure some stories over the years had gotten to Littlefinger about how much she dislikes him.

Also, since Littlefinger gets Sansa whisked away, her absence would definitely make her suspicious (and the Lannisters killed most of her family...so she had a reason). Seeing as Tyrion is her husband, he'd be guilty by association. That plus Cersei's perpetual hate for him would make him a perfect scapegoat even if they didn't tie him or Sansa to the necklace and Joffrey didn't point at him.

Just watched, little finger was definitely involved. Grandma also seems a little suspect.

Curious what is going to happen with Denaryus.

I don't think there's any way that LF could have possibly known that Tyrion would have directly been blamed for the poisoning. I do think that he wanted Sansa which was pretty obvious, but I think that was just him more taking advantage of the hectic scene to get her out of there and keep her for himself. I think it's really just a bonus for him Tyrion was implicated instead of Sansa, because honestly, it seems like they were trying to frame her in case anything went wrong.

Say Joffreys poisoned and it does come to light Sansa was wearing the necklace that poisoned him. Well how in the world does she ever even get out of Kings Landing and to LF? She'd be detained immediately and that whole plan to get her out is shot.

I mean it's clear that LF orchestrated the poisoning, but I guess I'm still having trouble with how anyone could have ever known Tyrion would get the blame? Because if Sansa did, which I think was expected, I doubt she ever gets out and if she did, shed be on the run.

I don't know man

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I think people have obsessed on this point way too much. The purple wedding didn't show anyone putting poison in the cup, but they did show her messing around with Sansa's necklace, they did show her paying extreme attention to the wine cup when Tyrion picks it up, and they have shown the necklace is missing a stone. They couldn't have shown the moment she put the stone into the cup or there wouldn't have been any surprise when Joffrey died or any mystery about who was responsible. Part of the GoT series story telling technique is the failure of the writers to reveal as much information as you might like to know. I think the screenwriter in this case gave the viewer more clues than they needed to provide and be satisfied with. There is no mystery at all to consider if every plot twist is belabored instead of occurring in something resembling real time

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I think the majority of people accept that. But the question still remains, how did she get it into the cup? She was never closer than about 8-10 feet to it.

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I think people have obsessed on this point way too much. The purple wedding didn't show anyone putting poison in the cup, but they did show her messing around with Sansa's necklace, they did show her paying extreme attention to the wine cup when Tyrion picks it up, and they have shown the necklace is missing a stone. They couldn't have shown the moment she put the stone into the cup or there wouldn't have been any surprise when Joffrey died or any mystery about who was responsible. Part of the GoT series story telling technique is the failure of the writers to reveal as much information as you might like to know. I think the screenwriter in this case gave the viewer more clues than they needed to provide and be satisfied with. There is no mystery at all to consider if every plot twist is belabored instead of occurring in something resembling real time

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This guy gets it

10 foot jump shot.

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I think the majority of people accept that. But the question still remains, how did she get it into the cup? She was never closer than about 8-10 feet to it.

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She stored it in her dried up hoo-ha and then queefed it into the goblet like a ping pong ball when no one was looking.