re: Game of Thrones S4:E2:"The Lion and the Rose", HODORS ONLY (no book readers)

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Leave it to Joffrey to have his own douchebaggery make it impossible to find his real killer(s).

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Ha, was thinking the same thing as he was dying.

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quote: Olenna Tyrell

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Got to be IMO either directly involved or has knowledge based on how keenly she was watching the cup and Joffrey, her expression, and her cry out for help (knowing it was futile).

Plus, whatever potential loss of power was risked, you'd have to think she was terrified of having Margaery marry such a monster.

It's hard to tell though because during the "festivities" they all, Tywin and Cersei included, have their public game faces on.

The flask used to fill the cup is the one in front of Tywin, Cersei and Tommen FWIW. I thought about the pie, but seems to risky to poison other people unless the plotter really didn't care about collateral damage.

Perhaps the poison was given before the last pour?

Loras and Oberyn exchange a very interesting smiling look and nod from across the area just before things get busy - probably the most incriminating thing I saw.