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re: Game of Thrones S4:E2:"The Lion and the Rose", HODORS ONLY (no book readers)

Posted on 4/15/14 at 4:50 pm to
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 4:50 pm to
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I thought Cersei was laughing and Tywin had a smile.



probably faking it

Tywin had that look of this fricktard is in my bloodline
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 4:50 pm to
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His "wife" is in in on it and the fact that she "would never be suspected" is key.

Just re-watched it and she never takes a sip of her wine or his cup. Her cup stays full. So maybe she's aware of the plot.
Posted by TTownTiger
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 4:51 pm to
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Joffey face after eating the first forkfull of pie isnt pretty...he almost grimaces as he chews it. I think its the pie, but they took several other slices to the head table also, other people would have fell out and died.

So confusing


Considering so much respect has to be given to the King, maybe everyone has to wait (out of respect) for him to take a bite of his own wedding cake before they can dig in.

I personally think it was the wine that was poisoned though.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 4:51 pm to
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Tywin had that look of this fricktard is in my bloodline

he has that looks with all of them. Jaime, Cersei, Tyrion, Tommen...
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 4:52 pm to
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Just re-watched it and she never takes a sip of her wine or his cup. Her cup stays full. So maybe she's aware of the plot.



If Olenna is behind it, Margaery damn well knows. Olenna wouldn't risk losing her.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 4:52 pm to
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I thought Cersei was laughing and Tywin had a smile.


Yes. Tywin was being uncharacteristically accommodating and kind (valeryan steel sword) to Joffrey. What kind of power would the husband (Loris) of the queen regent have? That could possibly be the payoff for the Tyrells.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 4:58 pm to
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Yes. Tywin was being uncharacteristically accommodating and kind (valeryan steel sword) to Joffrey. What kind of power would the husband (Loris) of the queen regent have? That could possibly be the payoff for the Tyrells.


I would assume that is off. Right?

ETA: Cersei's marrying Loras.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 4:59 pm
Posted by Jarlaxle
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 4:59 pm to
Who always has access to sleep medication and pain medication and maybe poisons?

Who was scolded and sent to the kitchen to reverse the wishes of the soon to be queen?

And did we see him again after the death?


Just thinking of a different angle.

Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:06 pm to
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I would assume that is off. Right?


Maybe not. That's why I'm asking what kind of power Loras would get. The physical evidence points to the Tyrells, but the motives don't, they need to get something out of it.
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:06 pm to
but poison is a lady's weapon.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76551 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:10 pm to
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Maybe not. That's why I'm asking what kind of power Loras would get. The physical evidence points to the Tyrells, but the motives don't, they need to get something out of it.


I don't think Tywin would force Cersei to marry Loras.

Tywin will be hand, and Cersei will be Queen Regent until Tommen takes over at what age? 16? 18?

He is 12 now.
Posted by JimMorrison
The Peninsula
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:18 pm to
pretty convincing still right there. the necklace is the key. the show has made it a point to show it to us.

I'll be kinda pissed if it's a red herring
Posted by Jarlaxle
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:19 pm to
Did anyone see clearly the cut scene of the pie was after he cut it open?

What was it?
Posted by JimMorrison
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:19 pm to
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Notice how no one is laughing during that bullshite play. They all looked sick of his bullshite.


Tommen laughed. he's Joffrey 2.0
Posted by JimMorrison
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:20 pm to
you talking about the dead birds?
Posted by JimMorrison
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:22 pm to
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quote:

Tywin had that look of this fricktard is in my bloodline



he has that looks with all of them. Jaime, Cersei, Tyrion, Tommen..


yeah, Tywin hates his kids and grandkids (especially because he knows they aren't true heirs).
Posted by JimMorrison
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:24 pm to
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Tywin was being uncharacteristically accommodating and kind (valeryan steel sword) to Joffrey


um..wedding gift?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:26 pm to
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Tommen laughed. he's Joffrey 2.0


By all accounts, that's not true.

Tommen is much more level headed and likes Tyrion.

But who knows, he's only 12.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76551 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:28 pm to
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pretty convincing still right there. the necklace is the key. the show has made it a point to show it to us.

I'll be kinda pissed if it's a red herring


That would be some bullshite.

I hate watching the "previously on Game of Thrones" because it brings up characters out of the blue that are obviously going to be important going forward. I guess we do need to be reminded who the fool was since it seemed a bit unimportant at the time.

But I like to go in fresh.
Posted by Jarlaxle
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:48 pm to
So when he cut the pie open he killed some of the doves?
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