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re: Excalibur (1981)...Nostalgia vs. objectivity

Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

green is metaphor for magic


Generally associated with the old British Isles pre-Christian beliefs.
Posted by 19
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 3:10 pm to
The Celtic gods driven out by Christianity is a subtle undercurrent of the movie.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 3:13 pm to
Mordred still kind of gives me the creeps.

Posted by SpqrTiger
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 3:18 pm to
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Well, I guess I can release the inner nerd and admit my friends and I would start chanting the charm of making during class...religion class.


NEEEERRRRRRDDDD!!!

j/k

Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 3:36 pm to
Fitting that my 40000th post would be all nerdy with this movie.

I absolutely love this movie and it does hold up very well. Great cast, solid performances and some real devotion and respect for the storytelling (plus, some really nice T & A thrown in [just what a young boy needs]).

Little bit of trivia...most of the set designs used in Excalibur had been created for a live-action Lord of the Rings adaptation that Boorman was aiming to make. The more you know...
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 3:47 pm to
Ever see Sean Connery as the Green Knight?

youtube
Posted by 19
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 4:22 pm to
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Green Knight


Bruh...Sooo 1984!

Gawain's hair is...is...all I remember from that clip.

I bet Connery wishes he had that one back, eh?

How did Peter Cushing get sucked into that?!?!
Posted by 19
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 4:26 pm to
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a live-action Lord of the Rings adaptation that Boorman was aiming to make. The more you know...


I wonder how that would've turned out-if he was as passionate about Tolkien as he was Arthurian legend...
Posted by 19
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 4:32 pm to
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my friends and I would start chanting the charm of making during class


Not that this makes it any less geek, but we would do it real low and try not to move our lips: one of us would start it, and the other two would wait for Sister to hear it and head in his direction, he would stop and another would pick it up from the other side of the room...and so on.

She was like 110, too, so it was kinda mean in retrospect...but 8th grade me loved it. She thought we all worshipped the devil anyway.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 5:14 pm to
mI've seen this movie many many times, and I still love it. It was a cult classic between my friends and I. I never got to see it in the theater because I was too young, but I watched it a million times on cable and tape.

Dragonslayer was also a great one, as was The Sword and the Sorcerer. I don't hear that one talked about very often. The launching "triple sword" was kind of stupid even then, but I still loved it.

Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 5:14 pm to
The third or fourth film released by Orion pictures, it is sometimes called the "Boorman Family Project" as director John Boorman (known mainly at that point for Deliverance) employed all of his children as cast and crew for the film, Excalibur is still remembered for a significant number of highly regarded actors getting fairly early screen time - mainly stage actors making the transition.

Helen Mirren - still in her 30s ( ) - was practically the elder stateswoman, film wise, having been around since the late 60s. Nicol Williamson (Merlin) had been all over British film and television for almost 20 years, but had only recently been seen in Hollywood films and American television - sometimes called "The British Brando" - Williamson and Mirren famously hated each other. Boorman thought this would be great as they wouldn't have to pretend to intensely dislike each other ( ).

Others in the stellar cast - Byrne, Neeson, Stewart - all household names in the U.S. - were virtual unknowns to the American audience at the time.
Posted by ScottFowler
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 7:04 pm to
Thanks Ace...Did not know any of that.

Had no idea of the bad blood. Going to have to watch this again..soon......



Did some say Triple Sword???

This post was edited on 1/18/17 at 7:11 pm
Posted by 19
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 7:26 pm to
I always assumed Boorman's daughter was the young Morgana (Are you the mother and the father of the baby now, Merlin?) As his son was the young Mordred.

Blew me away it was actually Igraine.
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 7:41 pm to
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Need to layoff the "Carmina Burana".
In a word. No.

Hell, back then Carmina Burana hadn't been abused to death. It was awesome in this movie.

Posted by rebelrouser
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:30 pm to
Speaking of which, and a big sidetrack, I loved HBO's animated version of Spawn:

spawn
Posted by Backinthe615
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 9:08 pm to
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Carmina Burana


College marching bands are wearing it so the frick out, not Excalibur. They're not even playing the money part of it.
Posted by ScottFowler
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:45 am to
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College marching bands are wearing it so the frick out, not Excalibur. They're not even playing the money part of it.


I will admit, this is true.
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:56 am to
The Sword and the Sorcerer is the single greatest achievement in cinematic history. I will fight you if you disagree.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 8:50 am to
quote:

I always assumed Boorman's daughter was the young Morgana (Are you the mother and the father of the baby now, Merlin?) As his son was the young Mordred.

Blew me away it was actually Igraine.


"So what's it like to direct your daughter in a rape scene?"

"Ummmm, I dunno, just another scene I suppose."
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:39 am to
Well, unless I am misremembering the movie, she didn't know it was rape until after she had sex and saw her husband had been killed in the battle. It wasn't a violent event other than Uther still wearing his armor.

Not like he directed his daughter in Irréversible.

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