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re: 'Dunkirk' Discussion Thread - Spoilers
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:25 pm to jg8623
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:25 pm to jg8623
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The death of the young kid was a headscratcher. He falls and then is dead? Huh? He hit his head on some sort of metal valve wheel or something. It was kind of random though
The name of that character was George Mills.
That was also the name of the Navy officer in Ice Station Zebra who gets his head crushed.
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Pretty weird huh?
Ice Station Zebra was the first novel I ever read.
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:25 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Yup. 70mm
You saw it in normal 70mm, just checked the list IMAX has for the movie. Because I have not heard 1 person complain about the real 70mm IMAX, it's been nothing but praised
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:35 pm to jg8623
Apparently so. 
Still, my biggest criticisms were with the movie itself.
Still, my biggest criticisms were with the movie itself.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:36 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Still, my biggest criticisms were with the movie itself.
You didn't even know what format you saw the movie in.....how am I supposed to take you seriously?
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:39 pm to McCaigBro69
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You didn't even know what format you saw the movie in.....how am I supposed to take you seriously?
Why would the format matter? What the characters say and do when faced with their particular challenges -- that is where the art is.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:40 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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Why would the format matter? What the characters say and do when faced with their particular challenges -- that is where the art is.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:13 pm to Burt Reynolds
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what was the deal with the people in the hull of that boat that were being shot at?
Wondering that too. Still don't know what that scene was about.
Whatever. My feelings are mixed. Thought the combat scenes were amazing.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:10 pm to LeClerc
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Wondering that too. Still don't know what that scene was about.
Whatever. My feelings are mixed. Thought the combat scenes were amazing.
you're the second person...
did you fall asleep?
It was this tiny boat beached on the low tide... and they all run to it because they know when the tide comes in it will start floating...
The ONLY joke in the movie revolved around this scene. The army commander asks the naval officer when the tide changes and the army man goes "Every 3 hours!" and the naval officer says "thank god you're army and I'm navy, it's every SIX!"
So the 30 or so soldiers dive into this rickety boat and one asks "well how long do we wait for the tide to come in" and the other soldier responds "3 hours!"
I forget who the civilian is who ends up on the boat I believe he was a french citizen who either owned the boat or just wanted to escape too
Long story short the Germans shoot at it for target practice, punching holes in it, and the water is seeping in and one man goes to plug the holes but gets grazed through the neck and is bleeding out like an animal in front of everyone... and they know... as more bullet holes fill the hull and lead bouncing around them... they know they have to plug the holes, but it will reveal there are a group of soldiers inside....
god damn that movie was just pure suspense wtf
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:18 pm to Delacroix22
I got a question. Did the first guy ever get a real chance to sit down and take a shite?
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:58 pm to jg8623
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I get your point, but he had thousands of extras on set. His hate of cgi probably stopped him from from creating those images of that many people, but it's nitpicking at that point
I don't know.
It shoots the film in the foot IMO. While the film does an excellent job of hitting the dire and hopeless tone, I can't help but wonder how much more profound the film would be if everything stayed EXACTLY the same, but the beach was literally covered with people.
The way it was, it looked like if only 2-3 of the large hospital ships could have gotten everyone off. Everything becomes that much more dire if you clearly see that it would require dozens if not hundreds of trips to get everyone out....and they are struggling to get even one across.
Sure, its in the dialogue. But film is a visual medium....
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 1:50 am
Posted on 7/24/17 at 1:40 am to Volvagia
That part didn't bother me so much. The underwhelming presence of the Luftwaffe in the film eliminated any sense that the rescue effort was ever in danger of failing. It appeared two Spitfires and one 40mm Bofors could have done the job.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 4:58 am to SoFla Tideroller
Really?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:36 am to finchmeister08
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I got a question. Did the first guy ever get a real chance to sit down and take a shite?
Aqua dumped for sure
Posted on 7/24/17 at 6:55 am to SoFla Tideroller
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On to the movie: the biggest weakness was the complete lack of scale.
I think this is a fair criticism. During the wide shots of the beach with the soldiers lined up, I remember thinking about how the numbers being shown should be way higher.
I think this is an area where CGI would have been a benefit and would have enhanced the movie.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 8:35 am to Delacroix22
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I forget who the civilian is who ends up on the boat I believe he was a french citizen who either owned the boat or just wanted to escape too
This was explained in the hull when they accused him of being a German spy. He was the guy in the beginning seen burying someone and putting on a uniform. He's a Frenchman disguising himself as English to get off the beach quicker.
ETA: Or are you thinking of the Dutchman that they captured walking on deck? I believe he was the boat owner.
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 8:38 am
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:45 am to SoFla Tideroller
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That part didn't bother me so much. The underwhelming presence of the Luftwaffe in the film eliminated any sense that the rescue effort was ever in danger of failing. It appeared two Spitfires and one 40mm Bofors could have done the job.
It wouldn't have needed to be THAT much more either. I mean the pacing and score and dialogue indicating urgency (and the efforts of the characters) all drove home the point.
But to the extent it would be historically realistic to show a little more of the Luftwaffe runs, I think it would have driven home the terror better.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:53 am to Pettifogger
There were Lutwaffe runs literally from beginning to end of the movie. Even in scenes away from the beach, you could hear the bombs.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 12:00 pm to Volvagia
Posted on 7/24/17 at 12:05 pm to cas4t
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There were Lutwaffe runs literally from beginning to end of the movie. Even in scenes away from the beach, you could hear the bombs.
Shelling and bombardments are usually relayed as some of the most terrifying and insanity-inducing elements of WW2. I just agree with him that this wasn't as well conveyed in this movie as in other war movies.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 12:52 pm to Pettifogger
There are numerous interviews with decorated WW2 veterans who survived Dunkirk, and were brought to tears by the realism of this movie. It's also documented that cloudy skies and the RAF prevented the Lutwaffe from bombing as often as they'd intended, which would explain why the severity doesn't matchup with other WW2 movies.
Not to mention they managed to evacuate 360,000 people, which to me is pretty telling.
Not to mention they managed to evacuate 360,000 people, which to me is pretty telling.
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 12:56 pm
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