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re: Critics are Raving About Alex Garland’s 'Civil War' 90% on RT
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:30 am to ohiovol
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:30 am to ohiovol
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When I worked on Ex Machina, [which was] about AI, people sometimes use the word ‘prescient’ or ‘predictive’ [to describe the film] and I always feel slightly embarrassed when people say that because at the time I wrote it, there was [already] a huge debate happening about it,” Garland said when asked about the film’s timing. “I think all of the topics in in [Civil War] have been a part of a huge public debate for years and years. These debates have been growing and growing in volume and awareness, but none of that is secret or unknown to almost anybody. I thought that everybody understands these terms and, at that point, I just felt compelled to write about it. If you cast your mind back to when I wrote this in June four years ago, there was an election coming and we’re dealing with Covid — the same conversations as now. Identical. So that’s where it came from.”
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Garland added that the film isn’t meant to specifically be a criticism of the United States. “America’s divisions are echoed almost precisely in many countries around the world,” the British filmmaker said. “In the case of America, there’s an extra danger given its power and importance in the world. America has an internal concept in its exceptionalism that means it feels it’s immune to some kinds of problems. One of the things history shows us is that nobody is immune. Nobody is exceptional. And if we don’t apply rationality and decency and thoughtfulness to these problems, in any place, it can get out of control … I’m not trying to locate [these problems] to America, that would be factually wrong. I can take you back home [to Britain] and can show you the same stuff happening in my country. But the implications here are much greater.”
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“Why are we talking and not listening?” he asked. “We’ve lost trust in the media and politicians. And some in the media are wonderful and some politicians are wonderful—on both sides of the divide. I have a political position and I have good friends on the other side of that political divide. Honestly, I’m not trying to be cute: What’s so hard about that? Why are we shutting [conversation] down? Left and right are ideological arguments about how to run a state. That’s all they are. They are not a right or wrong, or good and bad. It’s which do you think has greater efficacy? That’s it. You try one, and if that doesn’t work out, you vote it out, and you try again a different way. That’s a process. But we’ve made it into ‘good and bad.’ We made it into a moral issue, and it’s fricking idiotic, and incredibly dangerous … I personally [blame] some of this on social media. There is a an interaction that exists human-to-human that floats away when it reaches a public forum.”
Hollywood Reporter article
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:38 am to Esquire
From the article alone, it looks like Garland's motivation is in the right place.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 12:39 pm to crazyLSUstudent
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I remember when I first saw the preview for this and just groaned. I was like do we really need this.
Do we really "need" any movies?
Posted on 3/16/24 at 7:23 pm to timbo
People are so politicized these days
That they overreact to most things.
That they overreact to most things.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 7:58 pm to CXSteve
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If the south doesn't win this movie is a farce.
Funny, the way I view the topic is if all sides don't lose this movie is a farce.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 8:00 pm to Lateralus1
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There is no help for politards. They are terminal. Doesn't matter if their chosen side even won. They can't enjoy it because they always need someone to fight against.
You think this happens only with the "politards" on this website?
I'd hope you agree you can replace "politard" with "progressive" and the statement would be equally true.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 8:07 pm to chinese58
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How could any American civil war be fought with Texas and Cali fighting together? I would think they have their ICBMs aimed at each other.
Given the movie is billed as being apolitical I would imagine the genesis of the consternation between states is not based around current issues.
One way I could see TX and CA being on the same side is a conflict between high population states and low population states. This is an issue that has been on low simmer for 250 years. Something could come to pass that pits them against each other putting TX and CA in the category of strange bedfellows stemming from the fact ND, VT, AK and WY hold 4 times the power in the Senate that TX and CA do while having over 25 times the number of citizens within their borders. There is also unequal representation in the house at the extremes as well.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 8:59 pm to Centinel
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Repeal the 17th Amendment.
The 17th is politically charged just like abolishing the Electoral College is.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 9:33 pm to VOR
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People are so politicized these days
That they overreact to most things.
Do you think it’s unfair that people have lost faith in Hollywood?
What I see here is people refusing to give a movie the benefit of the doubt. I don’t think it’s unfair to do that either.
Now if it turns out this is a great movie and people still dig their heels in, that’s another story.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 4:13 am to Centinel
quote:Those other people don’t jump into every thread on MTV without even a passing knowledge of the creator of the movie/show, but full of ignorance and opinion to derail topics. There are at least 5 on the first page here that are just the politard swarm repeating the same shite over and over.
You think this happens only with the "politards" on this website?
Posted on 3/17/24 at 7:39 am to msutiger
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Do you think it’s unfair that people have lost faith in Hollywood?
Seems like it's well earned to me
Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:52 am to boogiewoogie1978
I think what we are seeing here is that hardcore Movie/TV board people that know director tendencies have a better understanding of what this movie potentially is.
But the general poster, doesn’t know or care about who the director is and views Hollywood as a whole based on the actions of, I think it’s fair to say, an overwhelming majority. So from that sense, Hollywood has burned the trust of a vast majority of Americans. They see a movie like this and assume it will fall in line with what most of Hollywood is producing these days. Meanwhile the hardcore movie fans think those same people are making things too political.
As someone who certainly falls in the second category, I can see how it is frustrating for the hardcore MTV posters, but I certainly understand the skepticism.
But the general poster, doesn’t know or care about who the director is and views Hollywood as a whole based on the actions of, I think it’s fair to say, an overwhelming majority. So from that sense, Hollywood has burned the trust of a vast majority of Americans. They see a movie like this and assume it will fall in line with what most of Hollywood is producing these days. Meanwhile the hardcore movie fans think those same people are making things too political.
As someone who certainly falls in the second category, I can see how it is frustrating for the hardcore MTV posters, but I certainly understand the skepticism.
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 8:53 am
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:33 am to drizztiger
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quote:I have no idea who Alex Garland is. Then why did you leave the poli board to come post in this thread. If you’ve never heard of Alex Garland then you’re certainly not a movie tv fan. But continue being triggered. You guys are hilariously simple.
Sorry I invaded your safe space bro. Lawd knows you folks would be triggered if just a trickle of media got out without whatever pet issue you have getting pandered to
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:45 am to scottydoesntknow
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Sorry I invaded your safe space bro.
Right. But what if you did just a cursory bit of research into the thing you had to venture to a new space to complain about before complaining about it?
Posted on 3/17/24 at 10:07 am to scottydoesntknow
quote:Oh yeah, you got me.
Sorry I invaded your safe space bro. Lawd knows you folks would be triggered if just a trickle of media got out without whatever pet issue you have getting pandered to
Posted on 3/17/24 at 10:39 am to msutiger
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But the general poster, doesn’t know or care about who the director is and views Hollywood as a whole based on the actions of, I think it’s fair to say, an overwhelming majority. So from that sense, Hollywood has burned the trust of a vast majority of Americans. They see a movie like this and assume it will fall in line with what most of Hollywood is producing these days. Meanwhile the hardcore movie fans think those same people are making things too political. As someone who certainly falls in the second category, I can see how it is frustrating for the hardcore MTV posters, but I certainly understand the skepticism
Agree with this. Hollywood just makes it way too easy to not trust them.
That being said, 2 or the more blatantly “political” films people lost their minds over without seeing in the last 10 years (Get Out and the Hunt) were way larger indictments of progressive elites than redneck right wing America.
But because Hollywood has conditioned people to think that way (because it’s what they normally do) people are hesitant to give this movie a fair shake.
I’m pretty far on the right bottom quadrant of the political compass but consider myself a board regular without always giving into anti-SJW ranting. I can agree with the ragers but it doesn’t make the board better.
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 10:42 am
Posted on 3/17/24 at 6:11 pm to chinese58
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How could any American civil war be fought with Texas and Cali fighting together? I would think they have their ICBMs aimed at each other.
TX/FL together believable. CA/NY believable but not CA/TX. It is a Movie so i guess whatever.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 6:28 pm to FLObserver
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but not CA/TX
The two biggest secession movements are in CA and Texas.
Both for federalist reasons. Albeit VERY different federalist reasons.
It’s far fetched but lesso than other state combinations.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 11:23 pm to RLDSC FAN
Let me guess: The Deep State wins.
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