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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 5/2/16 at 9:50 pm to
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 9:50 pm to
Plus isn't there significance to Gilly's son being either the 99th or 100th son of Craster? And the WW's don't have him.
Posted by The Last Son
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:05 pm to
My guess is that by the end of the season the Others will break through the Wall and begin to swarm over Westeros. Dany finally gets her shite together and sets sail in the season 7 finale. She arrives in the second or third episode of season 8 and she, her khalasar, the Second Sons, and the Unsullied go HAM on the Others all over Westeros.

She's going to land right around Casterly Rock and while she is wrecking shite, she'll send a band of her troops to frick up the Lannisters because frick them.

She and Jon meet at some point during the battle, get tingles, make babies, but since ain't nobody want half zombie half dragon babies leading their kingdom, they frick off somewhere and King Willis takes over the land. Tyrion becomes Lord of Tits and Wine, Littlefinger gets sent way north of the Wall to do Littlefinger things, and Dorne disappears into the abyss.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:09 pm to
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Dany finally gets her shite together and sets sail in the season 7 finale.


I will vomit if this is the case, but I fear you're right.

quote:

She's going to land right around Casterly Rock and while she is wrecking shite, she'll send a band of her troops to frick up the Lannisters because frick them


There's only one acceptable landing point for me: Dragonstone. It's the perfect place to end the next novel.
Posted by The Last Son
Member since Mar 2016
230 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:15 pm to
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I will vomit if this is the case, but I fear you're right.



Look if Dany doesn't set sail in the show then her story will have had no purpose. Considering every character and damn near every line in the show has had a purpose, I doubt they will have built her up for no damn reason. The name of the books is a Song of Fire and Ice. She's Fire, Jon's Ice. George always tells you what's going to happen before it happens. He already told you who this story is about in the title alone.

She's going to have a khalasar, a the second sons, and the unsullied. And Dragons. It'd be like the the '27 Yankees saying that they aren't going to take the field because the time doesn't feel right.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:17 pm to
My point is she should be sailing by the end of this finale tops. It's fricking bullshite that it takes her 8 seasons to reach Westeros.
Posted by The Last Son
Member since Mar 2016
230 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:23 pm to
I think they need to give her a reason to sail first. Hell maybe she sets sail the middle of next season and arrives during Episode 9. Takes over Casterly Rock, and then begins to go about her business in Westeros in the finale.
Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:28 pm to
I think she sets sail or takes flight to dragonstone at the end of this season
Posted by The Midnight Rider
Where the River Empties
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:36 pm to
Aren't D&D still claiming that the show will end at 7 seasons?
Posted by The Last Son
Member since Mar 2016
230 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:57 pm to
No. That was a clickbait article.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 11:01 pm to
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Plus isn't there significance to Gilly's son being either the 99th or 100th son of Craster? And the WW's don't have him.

I always wondered if that kid would play some part - kind of an anti-white walker or something. But I think they're running out of both narrative time in terms of episodes and time for him to grow up so I'm kind of doubting he'll end up important.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 11:04 pm to
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My point is she should be sailing by the end of this finale tops. It's fricking bullshite that it takes her 8 seasons to reach Westeros.

Euron is pretty much her only hope.

According to Cersei in AFFC, he commands over 1000 ships.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120178 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 11:05 pm to
Pretty much a given that Euron gets her back to Westeros.

What he expects in return is anybody's guess.
This post was edited on 5/2/16 at 11:05 pm
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 11:10 pm to
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Pretty much a given that Euron gets her back to Westeros. What he expects in return is anybody's guess.

Not Euron himself of course - in the books he sent his brother Victorian who was his own kind of crazy though a bit different from Euron's crazy. I kind of doubt Euron will go himself in the show, though it certainly is possible.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41160 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 11:40 pm to
Lord Bloodraven told Bran- you can't stay under the sea.
And then damp-hair appears.

Patchface was under sea for a while.


Patchface has been dead on-


-he predicted shadow killing Renly to his niece Shireen Baratheon
The shadows come to dance, my lord, dance my lord, dance my lord. The shadows come to stay, my lord, stay my lord, stay my lord

-Battle of Blackwater- to everyone
Under the sea, smoke rises in bubbles, and flames burn green and blue and black. I know, I know, oh, oh, oh

-Red Wedding to Davos
"Fool's blood, king's blood, blood on the maiden's thigh, but chains for the guests and chains for the bridegroom, aye aye aye"

-Three Eved Rave/Bran/Patchface
Clever bird, clever man, clever clever fool…



So moving forward- any therories?

"Under the sea the mermen feast on starfish soup, and all the serving men are crabs"


"The crow, the crow. Under the sea the crows are white as snow, I know, I know, oh, oh, oh"



Posted by PeteRose
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/3/16 at 1:30 am to
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It's fricking bullshite that it takes her 8 seasons to reach Westeros.


Yeah, it took stannis and davos to sail from westeros to essos back to westeros in 2 episodes. And they didn't even have a dragon.

Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27483 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 7:36 am to
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Victorian who was his own kind of crazy though a bit different from Euron's crazy


Unless something happens in the last third of book 5 that I haven't gotten to yet, I never got any indication in any of the books that Victorian was particularly crazy. He carries some baggage from what Euron did to him/his wife, but I wouldn't call him crazy.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33167 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 10:41 am to
Has anyone ever attempted to name R+L=J?

If not...I really like The Howlandareedian Theorem.

Open to suggestions, of course.
Posted by Gugich22
Who Dat Nation
Member since Jan 2006
27710 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:03 am to
Dany is not sailing to Westeros; Her, Tyrion, and an unknown third memeber will ride dragons into Dragonstone.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:06 am to
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Unless something happens in the last third of book 5 that I haven't gotten to yet, I never got any indication in any of the books that Victorian was particularly crazy. He carries some baggage from what Euron did to him/his wife, but I wouldn't call him crazy.

I may be misremembering. It's been awhile since I've read the chapters. I just remember stuff with his arm being turned black by that red priest (Moroquo?) while they were locked in his cabin and his screams were heard for a long time throughout the ship. It just seemed like he went a little loco (or more loco) after that. And I was thinking there was an episode with a monkey tormenting him but that might have been one of his captains.

Wiki OI&F has GRRM calling him dumb as a stump and a dullard and a brute so maybe he's just kinda slow and not necessarily crazy.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7042 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 7:36 pm to
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So moving forward- any therories?

"Under the sea the mermen feast on starfish soup, and all the serving men are crabs"

"The crow, the crow. Under the sea the crows are white as snow, I know, I know, oh, oh, oh"


They will defeat the walkers by flooding them.
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