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re: Captain America: Winter Soldier ***(SPOILERS)***

Posted on 4/5/14 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 4/5/14 at 4:17 pm to
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I went the the 10:05 Imax 3d showing at the place in Kenner and they had maybe 20 people in the whole theater.
Westbank AMC at 8:05. During the ending Montage, showing what's going on with different characters, some dad stood up a row in front of me and told his 7 year old kid to "get up the movies over." Did this to beat the crowd and I wanted to kill him. frickin 5 mins left and the kid didn't want to get up so the dad started yelling. Don't think I'm going back to that theater again.

I live Uptown, so probably won't drive to kenner
This post was edited on 4/5/14 at 4:20 pm
Posted by putt23
Pingree Grove, IL
Member since Oct 2010
4670 posts
Posted on 4/5/14 at 4:55 pm to
I thought it was pretty dang good. I didn't read comics but I always get on Marvel after one of the movies to see who's who

1. Does Falcon ever get some sort of power, or does he just use those mechanical wings all the time?

2. Will the WS be a good guy down the line?

3. Is it ever explained why the other "heroes" can't come help or are we just supposed to not think about that?
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15013 posts
Posted on 4/5/14 at 5:09 pm to
I think we are just not supposed to think about why the other heroes are busy at this point. When they do an actor reboot and the salaries are manageable we might see more cameos.
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/5/14 at 6:25 pm to
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3. Is it ever explained why the other "heroes" can't come help or are we just supposed to not think about that?


aside from Captain America, Hawkeye, and Black Widow possibly showing up in Iron Man 3 to help save the President I can 't really see how any of the other Avengers would have been able to get to where they would need to go fast enough to do anything in the other movies.

By the time Stark showed up in London for Thor 2 or anyone knew what the hell was going on within SHIELD during CA2 the battles would be over.

Thor has other shite to do on different worlds. Stark is doing his thing in NYC and last we saw him wants to retire from being Iron Man. Bruce Banner wanted little to do with SHIELD or the US military the first go around.

Hawkeye is really the only one that we have no idea where he would be.
This post was edited on 4/5/14 at 6:27 pm
Posted by Qwerty
Member since Dec 2010
2114 posts
Posted on 4/5/14 at 6:36 pm to
I had high expectations, and it exceeded them. Great movie and I think marvel's best.

They obviously planned out the universe well, with references to the underground hydra conspiracy in other movies. I like the ramifications for the movies and tv show. So coulson and others going around compiled a list of gifted people has been primarily to get a hit list for hydra?
This post was edited on 4/5/14 at 6:52 pm
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
16906 posts
Posted on 4/5/14 at 7:10 pm to
Just saw it, i very much enjoyed it.

Few questions for the marvel nerds.

I take a lot of beef ith killing off CA and don't see them doing it.. However didnt they bring him back to life as well?

How was that guys mind in an old computer? Any details on that?

Do you think they reform SHIELD?
I would expect they will prior to next seasons TV show. Unless they have an entire season of the TV show with them on the run.

Do y'all think they will tie in the X-men?
This post was edited on 4/5/14 at 7:11 pm
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 4/5/14 at 8:47 pm to
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I take a lot of beef ith killing off CA and don't see them doing it.. However didnt they bring him back to life as well?


Sort of.

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How was that guys mind in an old computer? Any details on that?

Zola created a device that could transfer someone's consciousness into an android body he created, in the comics. In the movie, he must have just transferred himself into a computer system.

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Do you think they reform SHIELD?
I would expect they will prior to next seasons TV show. Unless they have an entire season of the TV show with them on the run.


They may try rebuilding SHIELD but as a domestic outfit instead of an international one. Having the team on the run would be a nice change, especially getting rid of that stupid jet.

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Do y'all think they will tie in the X-men?


Not a chance. Another studio owns the movie rights to the X-movies just as a 3rd one owns the rights to Spiderman movies.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 4/5/14 at 8:54 pm to
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1. Does Falcon ever get some sort of power, or does he just use those mechanical wings all the time?


Wings.

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2. Will the WS be a good guy down the line?


Yes. If they go with the Death of Captain America storyline at some point, Bucky will replace him (at Stark's urging).

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3. Is it ever explained why the other "heroes" can't come help or are we just supposed to not think about that?


It's assumed they each have their own things going on (ie: their movies). Besides, things are happening so fast in this movie that Cap wouldn't really have time to call anyone (btw, I don't want to know the charge for calling Asgard).
Posted by Rougarou4lsu
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2003
3079 posts
Posted on 4/5/14 at 9:29 pm to
Captain America and his Howling Comandos

WTF

Guess they figured SGT Fury would have been too old
to take credit for his rightful role as leader of the Howlers. Too bad...would have made a great Marvel movie somewhere down the line.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 4/5/14 at 9:41 pm to
quote:

1. Does Falcon ever get some sort of power, or does he just use those mechanical wings all the time?

2. Will the WS be a good guy down the line?

3. Is it ever explained why the other "heroes" can't come help or are we just supposed to not think about that?


1 - The wings are his power. In the comic, before he got the wings (created for him by the Black Panther if I remember) he was just an athletic guy. Oh, except he has a telephatic connection to his hawk Redwing that was at times expanded to control over all birds or something like that.

2- Yes. In the series, he was Cap's sidekick Bucky in WWII and was believed killed in the drone crash that froze Cap. It was one of the very few comic book "deaths" that was considered permanent because it lasted for decades. Then they retconned it to him having been rescued by the Soviets (and brainwashed I think) and turned into a elite agent/spy/assassin by them. I didn't follow the recent story lines but I think he did indeed become a good guy again.

3 - It's something that always has to be dealt with when there are heroes who are on teams and also have individual books/films. Usually it's just assumed they are involved in their own adventures.
This post was edited on 4/5/14 at 9:43 pm
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60296 posts
Posted on 4/5/14 at 11:43 pm to
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The path of the righteous man


I was the only one in the theatre to laugh at that. I shook my head and said Pulp Fiction. Others began to explain it after.

The gasps when they revealed Bucky as WS was hilarious to me.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44561 posts
Posted on 4/5/14 at 11:45 pm to
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3. Is it ever explained why the other "heroes" can't come help or are we just supposed to not think about that?



I read an article saying that they'll explain in Avengers 2 why some of the characters haven't been around. I remember Hawkeye and Hulk specifically being mentioned.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80115 posts
Posted on 4/6/14 at 1:16 am to
The fact that they gave Peggy Carter Alzheimers was hard to watch. Also, Emily VanCamp's character is Sharon...Carter. Notice how she said her "aunt is a bit of an insomniac". In the comics, she is Peggy's niece.
Posted by FleuryNipples
Member since Apr 2012
2869 posts
Posted on 4/6/14 at 1:41 am to
I watched a shitty bootleg with horrible quality.
I know

Who was the old woman that CA was visiting at one point. That scene skipped out.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36040 posts
Posted on 4/6/14 at 1:47 am to
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Who was the old woman that CA was visiting at one point. That scene skipped out.


That was Stan Lee.
Posted by FleuryNipples
Member since Apr 2012
2869 posts
Posted on 4/6/14 at 1:52 am to
Nah
I saw Stan sweeping when the suit went missing.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37263 posts
Posted on 4/6/14 at 7:33 am to
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3. Is it ever explained why the other "heroes" can't come help or are we just supposed to not think about that?


If people think about it, at least for this film, the "public events," happen over a course of about 48 hours. So there's more immediacy here than say an Iron Man 3, and over a shorter amount of time. You might be able to say Fury could have called someone, but outside of Hawkeye, maybe he didn't want it to be a big deal if Iron Man suddenly left New York.


And hopefully while Marvel builds the MCU they build the rules necessary for comic book movies to exist. And then people have to just expect them.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51904 posts
Posted on 4/6/14 at 7:49 am to
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That was Stan Lee.



Posted by lsufanintexas
Member since Sep 2006
5011 posts
Posted on 4/6/14 at 10:00 am to
About to see it for my second time to a. See this kick arse flick again and b. Spot all the little things I missed at my first viewing.
Posted by CC
Western NY
Member since Feb 2004
14864 posts
Posted on 4/6/14 at 10:55 am to
I'm I alone in thinking that the algorithm might also be the clairvoyant or at least how the clairvoyant gets his information? Hitting the reset on Coulson might be why it can't "read" him.
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