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re: Breaking Bad Season 5 Episode 8 "Gliding Over All"
Posted on 9/4/12 at 1:10 am to ZZTIGERS
Posted on 9/4/12 at 1:10 am to ZZTIGERS
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What was Gretchen's last name before she married Elliot? Maybe he'll play it off by saying it's from her? They used to be together, were lab partners...
Nice thought, but no way Hank can be stupid enough to believe such a coincidence.
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Posted on 9/4/12 at 1:16 am to LSUtoOmaha
Gretchen's maiden name may be Black. Not the same penmanship
This post was edited on 9/4/12 at 1:26 am
Posted on 9/4/12 at 1:46 am to ZZTIGERS
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GB was written in the book. Hank knows everything now
Its not like it said Gail Bedecker. It said GB.
"To my OTHER favorite WW"
I think Hank would know Gale's tendencies, handwriting and signature better than anyone, as Hank scrutinized his notes all day while he was holed up with his minerals.
Walt also already established with Hank that 'WW' refers to Walt Whitman in Gale's notes, in the full episode from the flashback, and now G.B. is referring to "my favorite OTHER WW".
You're making this too complicated (and there is a video on AMC's website right now with the actor who plays Hank saying "I now know Walt is Heisenberg and Walt doesn't know I know he's Heisenberg.")
Besides the video, it doesn't make sense for Hank to get right off the pot and walk up to Walt and confront him. "Hey Walt, do you remember that guy Gale who liked Walt Whitman (who you denied knowing at my house when I showed you his file)? Yeah, well somehow he left you a personalized message in your bathroom reading. Any idea how that got there?" Or just as silly, "hey Walt, while I was reading while taking a dump, I wonder if you could tell me who wrote you this dedication in a book of poetry? I really want to explore the space of Walt Whitman's pioneering use of free verse with your friend G.B."
Confronting Walt would ruin any element of surprise Hank has and tip off Walt immediately.
This post was edited on 9/4/12 at 1:50 am
Posted on 9/4/12 at 2:03 am to GoIrish02
Yeah, I'm probably trying too hard to find a way to explain it away. I'm looking at it from Walt's perspective if he's confronted.
But then again, I have the luxury of knowing in advance, and concocting a story. If & when Walt is confronted, will he be quick on his feet & think of that... Don't know, he's smart, so we shall see.
But then again, I have the luxury of knowing in advance, and concocting a story. If & when Walt is confronted, will he be quick on his feet & think of that... Don't know, he's smart, so we shall see.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 5:35 am to GoIrish02
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the actor who plays Hank saying "I now know Walt is Heisenberg and Walt doesn't know I know he's Heisenberg.")
Here is my guess. Hank is now going to put Walt under the watchful eye of the DEA....since Walt is now out of the game....Hank will have to give up at some point. I see the other crew that he made the P2P deal with taking a fall.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:14 am to TideHater
Walt has to use the Ricin on someone.... He's been trying to use it on someone all the way back to Tuco..... And still has never used it.... My prediction is he uses it on himself and goes out in a blaze of glory with his firepower acquired in episode 1 this season.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:26 am to TideHater
quote:this is what I'm thinking
re is my guess. Hank is now going to put Walt under the watchful eye of the DEA....since Walt is now out of the game....Hank will have to give up at some point.
It may be a situation where the series ends with Hank telling Walt to GTFO, I'll give you an hour to leave town. And so now Walt is constantly moving, changing identities, vehicles, etc
Posted on 9/4/12 at 7:43 am to Pilot Tiger
haven't read this whole thread, but Hank can't frick with Walt or Hank will be investigated himself. All that rehab paid for by his in laws and money laundering done by sis-in-law would put everyone in jail. Hank will be jobless, just like his former boss. My best guess is that Walt leaves town because Hank tells him to, but Walt does go Heisenberg on him, letting him know how he's the reason he got shot, killed Gus and letting him know that he can't do shite. When Walt comes back Hank or Skylar (maybe Jesse too) have been killed by the cartel or his Arizona partners.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 8:15 am to RonBurgundy
I think those hoods he allied himself with to kill the inmates are going to come after him for some reason or another.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 9:34 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
If we can back up for a second...
I don't buy for a second that Walt is "out." If he is, I think the writers have let us down. They've spent 8 weeks trying to show that Walt is slowly dying at the hands of Heisenberg (I like to think of Heisenberg a metaphor for Walt's cancer in some ways). Success and domination are his only motivation, not money. He's in the empire business.
After everything that's happened so far this season (Todd killing the kid, and him killing Mike), I just don't buy that Skyler showing him how much money he has made is what snaps him out of it. If anything, I would expect the new Walt to buy that whole storage facility and try to fill all the units with his money.
So, I think him saying he is out is just a new tactic of manipulating Skylar. He wants his kids back, but on his terms.
I don't buy for a second that Walt is "out." If he is, I think the writers have let us down. They've spent 8 weeks trying to show that Walt is slowly dying at the hands of Heisenberg (I like to think of Heisenberg a metaphor for Walt's cancer in some ways). Success and domination are his only motivation, not money. He's in the empire business.
After everything that's happened so far this season (Todd killing the kid, and him killing Mike), I just don't buy that Skyler showing him how much money he has made is what snaps him out of it. If anything, I would expect the new Walt to buy that whole storage facility and try to fill all the units with his money.
So, I think him saying he is out is just a new tactic of manipulating Skylar. He wants his kids back, but on his terms.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 10:10 am to RonBurgundy
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haven't read this whole thread, but Hank can't frick with Walt or Hank will be investigated himself.
They believed that the money was coming from Walt's gambling (also Hank had no idea they were paying for his bills). I believe that alone would free them from any guilt.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 10:13 am to TideHater
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. Hank is now going to put Walt under the watchful eye of the DEA
How do you suppose Hank is going to ask DC for a surveillance budget to follow his bro-in-law.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 10:19 am to dr smartass phd
I have a feeling Hank is going to perform a few solo missions by himself before letting anyone know. Only seems right given the level of severity/the fact that Walt is family.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 10:27 am to TheOcean
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I have a feeling Hank is going to perform a few solo missions by himself before letting anyone know
He's already on thin ice for being out in the field, he's head desk jockey and DEA face in ABQ. Another possible angle here, since Walt went international, how many DC pols are in the money making loop.
Walt STAAAAAACKED
Hank FUUUUUUUUCKKKED
This post was edited on 9/4/12 at 10:28 am
Posted on 9/4/12 at 10:59 am to dr smartass phd
After everything we have seen from Hank in 5 seasons do you honestly believe he is going to just give this one up?
Posted on 9/4/12 at 11:09 am to dr smartass phd
Does the DEA think Heisenberg is just the cook\chemist or the ringleader??
If they believe he is just the cook and Walt convinces Hank that is all he is. He could blame everything else on the new distribution partners from Phoenix and get immunity and witness protection. Hence the New Hampshire plates, growing out the hair and a beard, and showing a New Hampshire license to the waitress at Denny's with the last name of Lambert. Which is Skyler's and Marie's maiden name according to Breaking Bad wiki. Walt is back to either get his money from the storage locker for his recurrence of cancer or save/kill Jessie??
If they believe he is just the cook and Walt convinces Hank that is all he is. He could blame everything else on the new distribution partners from Phoenix and get immunity and witness protection. Hence the New Hampshire plates, growing out the hair and a beard, and showing a New Hampshire license to the waitress at Denny's with the last name of Lambert. Which is Skyler's and Marie's maiden name according to Breaking Bad wiki. Walt is back to either get his money from the storage locker for his recurrence of cancer or save/kill Jessie??
This post was edited on 9/4/12 at 11:15 am
Posted on 9/4/12 at 11:15 am to CaptSpaulding
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If we can back up for a second...
I don't buy for a second that Walt is "out." If he is, I think the writers have let us down. They've spent 8 weeks trying to show that Walt is slowly dying at the hands of Heisenberg (I like to think of Heisenberg a metaphor for Walt's cancer in some ways). Success and domination are his only motivation, not money. He's in the empire business.
After everything that's happened so far this season (Todd killing the kid, and him killing Mike), I just don't buy that Skyler showing him how much money he has made is what snaps him out of it. If anything, I would expect the new Walt to buy that whole storage facility and try to fill all the units with his money.
So, I think him saying he is out is just a new tactic of manipulating Skylar. He wants his kids back, but on his terms.
It is apparent from the finale, his cancer has returned (e.g. his gazing at the hotel room painting, the same as the painting over his bed when he was in the hospital, the way he looked longingly at the towel dispenser he smashed in season 1 after a GOOD prognosis, implying he got bad news after his MRI in the finale) and he wants to spend his dying days with his family.
All the empire business went out the window since death is now near, and he embraced the empire business since he no longer had his family. I think his empire dreams will be addressed by his wrapping up the loose ends by blaming one of his business partners (Lydia, Jesse, the Phoenix crew, Germans, Gus's Chilean/German war criminal ancestors) as the real Heisenberg, with Walt and Hank working together to frame one of these people. Walt's best chance at a legacy is leaving Hank as the conquering hero DEA agent as a father figure for his kids.
Also, in the first episode of this season, in the flash forward, on his 52nd birthday approximately 8-9 months in the future, Walt has hair and a full beard, indicating he has stopped cancer treatment because he is too far gone for it to be useful.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 11:18 am to Notro
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showing a New Hampshire license to the waitress at Denny's with the last name of Lambert. Which is Skyler's and Marie's maiden name according to Breaking Bad wiki
Johann Lambert is also a scientist, physicist and philospher, just like Heisenberg was a leading chemist and physicist (e.g. the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle). Walt picked that name for the scientific connection, not his wife's maiden name.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 11:19 am to GoIrish02
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Johann Lambert is also a scientist, physicist and philospher, just like Heisenberg was a leading chemist and physicist
And also note that Saul has spoken on a few occasions to Walt about buying another identity.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 11:23 am to TheOcean
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They believed that the money was coming from Walt's gambling (also Hank had no idea they were paying for his bills). I believe that alone would free them from any guilt.
Just because Hank didn't know doesn't mean he will be less guilty for having a meth kingpin pay for his really expensive PT the DEA refused to pay for. This is just the kind of stuff Heisenberg likes to drop on people to manipulate and control them.
Plus, Hank has never done a thing to actually impede or stop the meth trade of Fring or Walt, Hank's always just a step behind. Walt's blowing up Gus is the only reason Hank is not still a laughing stock.
Hank's only move is to work with Walt.
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