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re: Best Fan Arguments About Movie Plots
Posted on 2/8/12 at 12:28 pm to alajones
Posted on 2/8/12 at 12:28 pm to alajones
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Didn't they say that they killed Sammy Jenkins already?
He already killed John G, the guy that broke into the house and raped the wife + knocked him out. Sammy Jenkins was the guy that had the same condition and killed his wife via repeated insulin injections.
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Posted on 2/8/12 at 12:29 pm to Choupique19
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The earlier scene in the movie showed Dottie holding on to the ball during a collision. That scene was put in the movie to show that she was fully capable of taking the hit.
doesn't mean she can't drop it. I can show literally hundered's of pics of Wes Welker catching the ball, he still dropped a big one Sunday. Sometimes shite happens.
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Why did Dottie smile while looking back at Kitt who finally got her chance to be the hero?
Because she was happy for her sister.
Posted on 2/8/12 at 12:31 pm to H-Town Tiger
But Dottie had everything she wanted: husband, family, etc.
All Kit had was baseball and she knew that.
It's pretty clear that Dottie is done with baseball by the end of the movie. Not that this is proof, but when I watched the movie I had to work to convince myself that she dropped it on accident.
All Kit had was baseball and she knew that.
It's pretty clear that Dottie is done with baseball by the end of the movie. Not that this is proof, but when I watched the movie I had to work to convince myself that she dropped it on accident.
Posted on 2/8/12 at 12:35 pm to THRILLHO
quote:Hell no. Great movie, but I really hate the end. It didn't ruin the movie, I just do not agree with the choice made. Which I think was what they were trying to do.
Did Afflek's character in Gone Baby Gone do the right thing?
I also think that Casey's character knew he did the wrong thing at the end of the movie. The daughter would have had a much brighter future with Morgan Freeman.
quote:I'm gonna have to check this out again.
Was Lenny in Memento Sammy Jenkins (did he kill his own wife)?
Posted on 2/8/12 at 12:37 pm to sk33ter
That's fine, but then why come back and play? She could have just supported her sister from the stands? I have a hard time beleiving in the heat of the moment, someone that competitive ( and we see all movie long Dottie is uber competitive) would on the spur of the moment just decide to drop it so Kitt can have the glory. And if it was premeditated, why not just strikeout instead of getting the hit? If she feels bad after that cause Kitt is crying, why tell the pitcher Kitts weakness? Tell her Kitt loves high fast balls, so throw something else.
Some people just can't accept stuff happens some times. Crazy terrorist couldn't do 9/11, had to be a conspiracy. No way some loner could kill the POTUS and destroy Camelot, had to be the CIA/Mob/Castro. LSU couldn't just come out flat and with a bad game plan, must have been a pre game fight, JJ was at Harrah's all night
Some people just can't accept stuff happens some times. Crazy terrorist couldn't do 9/11, had to be a conspiracy. No way some loner could kill the POTUS and destroy Camelot, had to be the CIA/Mob/Castro. LSU couldn't just come out flat and with a bad game plan, must have been a pre game fight, JJ was at Harrah's all night
Posted on 2/8/12 at 12:38 pm to Scruffy
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Did Afflek's character in Gone Baby Gone do the right thing?
Hell no. Great movie, but I really hate the end. It didn't ruin the movie, I just do not agree with the choice made. Which I think was what they were trying to do.
This is exactly how I felt and I was like, "What the frick."
Then this girl that was in the room was like, "Are you kidding? That girl needs to be with her mother, not some foster parent."
I was like ....
Then these two other girls were like, "Yeah!"
I had to leave.
Posted on 2/8/12 at 12:38 pm to Scruffy
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Was Lenny in Memento Sammy Jenkins (did he kill his own wife)?
God, this movie has been the thorn in my side for so long. I love it, and think I have it fully realized, but very discussion of it always leaves me needing to watch it again.
Posted on 2/8/12 at 12:39 pm to DvlsAdvocat
quote:Exactly. Just when you think you have it all down, someone throws something else out there and you lose it all again.
God, this movie has been the thorn in my side for so long. I love it, and think I have it fully realized, but very discussion of it always leaves me needing to watch it again.
Posted on 2/8/12 at 12:40 pm to sk33ter
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That's fine, but then why come back and play? She could have just supported her sister from the stands? I have a hard time beleiving in the heat of the moment, someone that competitive ( and we see all movie long Dottie is uber competitive) would on the spur of the moment just decide to drop it so Kitt can have the glory.
And if it was premeditated, why not just strikeout instead of getting the hit? If she feels bad after that cause Kitt is crying, why tell the pitcher Kitts weakness? Tell her Kitt loves high fast balls, so throw something else.
When I saw the movie I remember thinking that she didn't know she was going to throw the game until the very minute she dropped the ball. I mainly thought this because of the way the scene was shot: the ball didn't go flying out of her hand from force, it rolled out slowly - as though she decided at the last second to let it go.
Of course, this is not proof at all. Just the impression it left on me.
Until that point she was determined to beat her sister, IMO.
Posted on 2/8/12 at 12:41 pm to Scruffy
Damn you Nolan!!
Posted on 2/8/12 at 12:45 pm to DvlsAdvocat
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Damn you Nolan!!
Posted on 2/8/12 at 12:47 pm to Choupique19
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Why did Dottie smile while looking back at Kitt who finally got her chance to be the hero?
This is the most compelling evidence, IMO. As the true competitor we know Dottie is, I believe she would have felt more disappointed in herself for letting her team down. Instead, she shows nothing but signs of satisfaction and happiness for what she's done for her sister by dropping it on purpose.
Posted on 2/8/12 at 12:51 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
Haven't read DADoES? or WCRIFYW, but I can vouch for this:
I spent quite a while thinking about VALIS after reading it.
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For a complete mindfrick read Ubik.
Or if you want to have your world view flipped on it head for a little bit, read VALIS.
I spent quite a while thinking about VALIS after reading it.
Posted on 2/8/12 at 12:51 pm to H-Town Tiger
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(though I never understood why she left other than dramatic effect,
Originally, she left because there was a love plot between her and the coach (Tom Hanks). The makers of the film decided to cut this subplot out in the final version of the film, for obvious reasons.
Posted on 2/8/12 at 12:52 pm to sk33ter
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Of course, this is not proof at all. Just the impression it left on me.
I assume that's Penny Marshall's point, its up to the audience members to decide for themselves if she dropped it, but a fun debate
Another for the OP : Whats in the case in Pulp Fiction?
Posted on 2/8/12 at 12:57 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Another for the OP : Whats in the case in Pulp Fiction?
The cure for AIDS.
Posted on 2/8/12 at 1:01 pm to H-Town Tiger
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That's fine, but then why come back and play? She could have just supported her sister from the stands? I have a hard time beleiving in the heat of the moment, someone that competitive ( and we see all movie long Dottie is uber competitive) would on the spur of the moment just decide to drop it so Kitt can have the glory.
it is obviously debatable but if you love your sister more than you love baseball it is certainly possible
there were times playing sports against my brother than I wanted to beat him more than anything and other times I didn't mind losing at all (didn't play as hard as I could have because it felt like he deserved a win)
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Some people just can't accept stuff happens some times.
agree with that
but I would add moral ambiguity is a very important part of real life and good fiction. people are a lot less likely to fully understand their own actions than they think they are. If there isn't some ambiguity in the fiction then it isn't a very good representation of real life
Posted on 2/8/12 at 1:05 pm to sk33ter
Regardless, no way the Peaches lose if Dottie doesn't go AWOL for the first 6 games of the World Series, or if Nelson doesn't sweep Marla Hooch off of her feet and marry her mid-season. Jimmy Dugan was robbed of the very first AAWBL championship.
That's what happens when girls try to play baseball. Girls are for sleeping with after you play the game.
That's what happens when girls try to play baseball. Girls are for sleeping with after you play the game.
Posted on 2/8/12 at 1:16 pm to Scruffy
Was Deckard a replicant? - NO
Was Total Recall a dream? - NO
Did Patrick Bateman really kill all those people? - YES
Did Dottie drop the ball on purpose? - frick NO
Inception - Did the top fall? - YES
Did Ofelia actually perform magic in Pan's Labyrinth or was it her imagination to escape the war and her stepfather? - NO
Whats in the case in Pulp Fiction? - Soul
Was Total Recall a dream? - NO
Did Patrick Bateman really kill all those people? - YES
Did Dottie drop the ball on purpose? - frick NO
Inception - Did the top fall? - YES
Did Ofelia actually perform magic in Pan's Labyrinth or was it her imagination to escape the war and her stepfather? - NO
Whats in the case in Pulp Fiction? - Soul
Posted on 2/8/12 at 1:18 pm to udtiger
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Was Deckard a replicant? - NO
Then how did Edward James Olmos's character know that Deckard was dreaming about unicorns?
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