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re: ASOIAF: who now has control of the artistic rights? Martin or HBO?
Posted on 5/4/16 at 10:06 am to KingSlayer
Posted on 5/4/16 at 10:06 am to KingSlayer
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Again, just a reply to angry book readers complaints that's pretty much common sense.
No, those are GRRM's thoughts that he can't say aloud. That's obvious
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 10:11 am to UncleBlazer
Well, if he is so pissed about it, then there is no excuse for him not to have finished WoW before this season began. If he wants to be pissed at someone, he needs to look in the freaking mirror. He has no one to blame but himself.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 10:14 am to UncleBlazer
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t has actually given him incentive to finish faster. He hates where the show has gone, and is trying to get WOW out as soon as possible.
He didn't seem too unhappy when he was celebrating his Emmy last year.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 10:22 am to ohiovol
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He didn't seem too unhappy when he was celebrating his Emmy last year.
Irrelevant to the conversation, unless you assume he is supposed to frown the whole ceremony.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 10:38 am to UncleBlazer
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No, those are GRRM's thoughts that he can't say aloud. That's obvious
No, those are the thoughts of a book editor that gets paid by having books sold. Not exactly earth shattering that a book editor would be downgrading a tv show and encouraging people to buy the book. Did you think she'd be saying the show is so good and in line with George that you don't need to even buy the book when it comes out? George Martin has no problem voicing his opinions, he doesn't need a surrogate to carry his water.
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 10:46 am to UncleBlazer
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Notice how he hasn't recently? He was on every comic con panel 2011-2014. Not 2015
He specifically said he wasn't writing for the show or traveling to the more recent Comic-Cons in an effort to finish WoW since he only writes from home. It doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the show. If anything it seems as if he feels comfortable enough to leave D&D to their devices and knows they can be treated as two different storylines/mediums.
From the man himself...
ETA: His editors also thought he had a good shot at an October/January deadline for WoW because he was working towards that. That suggests he's just been at home trying to get it done instead of hitting up cons.
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 10:51 am to KingSlayer
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No, those are the thoughts of a book editor that gets paid by having books sold. Not exactly earth shattering that a book editor would be downrading a tv show and encouraging people to buy the book. Did you think she'd be saying the show is so good and in line with George that you don't need to even buy the book when it comes out? George Martin has no problem voicing his opinions, he doesn't need a surrogate to carry his water.
Don't be thick. GRRM can not come out and say he doesn't like the show or what it has done.
You really think the purpose of that book editor tweet was to make a difference in sales?
Those books have sold like hotcakes since GOT aired, and WOW will sell like hotcakes regardless of what some editor tweets, and she knows that.
It's fricking weird how some of you will find any reason to bash GRRM.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:41 am to UncleBlazer
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Irrelevant to the conversation, unless you assume he is supposed to frown the whole ceremony.
Aren't you the one implying that his skipping certain events is clear evidence he hates the show?
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:44 am to UncleBlazer
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Don't be thick. GRRM can not come out and say he doesn't like the show or what it has done.
Agreed. I have little doubt he doesn't like some of the changes that have been made. That's a long way off from saying he hates the show. Most of the hate the show gets is from book purists.
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It's fricking weird how some of you will find any reason to bash GRRM.
Not really sure what you're talking about here.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:45 am to UncleBlazer
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Don't be thick. GRRM can not come out and say he doesn't like the show or what it has done.
Of course he can, just like he can tell fans to frick off when they ask about finishing the books before he dies. If George Lucas can shite on Episode VII for the direction they went, GRRM can certainly make a statement about not liking where they show is going.
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You really think the purpose of that book editor tweet was to make a difference in sales?
You think the book editor doesn't have a stake in people buying the book? And I'm the one being thick?
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Those books have sold like hotcakes since GOT aired, and WOW will sell like hotcakes regardless of what some editor tweets, and she knows that.
And Coke will sell just fine too, they still advertise and try to increase sells with commercials and such.
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It's fricking weird how some of you will find any reason to bash GRRM.
Where exactly did I criticize GRRM?
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:49 am to ohiovol
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Aren't you the one implying that his skipping certain events is clear evidence he hates the show?
Not necessarily. I just brought up the comic con because I thought it was interesting but I realize it was to focus on WOW. That's not why I think he hates what they have turned the show into post season 4.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:58 am to KingSlayer
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Of course he can, just like he can tell fans to frick off when they ask about finishing the books before he dies. If George Lucas can shite on Episode VII for the direction they went, GRRM can certainly make a statement about not liking where they show is going.
No he can't. You really think if GRRM thought that the Season 5 was a disgrace to his novels he could come out and say "Season 5 was shite and a disgrace to my novels"
no he couldn't And if you thought what Lucas said was openly bashing, I see why you think GRRM can say what he actually believes.
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You think the book editor doesn't have a stake in people buying the book? And I'm the one being thick?
You really think some book editor was like "You know with GOT being the biggest show in the world, I really think we need more advertising and I'm just the person. If I tweet I don't like it because I'm so well known, it will sell more novels!!!" No hodor knows who she is and the people she was identifying with already have the books.
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Where exactly did I criticize GRRM?
That was more at the people who always proclaim he will die before he finishes as fact. And those if they see him at a restaurant, they say he should be writing
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:00 pm to UncleBlazer
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That was more at the people who always proclaim he will die before he finishes as fact.
I'm not saying it's a fact... but I'd bet on it.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:04 pm to LSUBoo
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I'm not saying it's a fact... but I'd bet on it.
Yeah, the odds aren't in his favor at the rate he has been turning out the novels.
I'll say it again, there is no excuse for him not being able to finish WoW before this season started. That is 100% on him.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:05 pm to Errerrerrwere
It doesn't matter, the legacy of this story is the tv series now and not the novel.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:08 pm to UncleBlazer
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was released before the season was over
Even if he announced today that the book was finished, it would still be 4-six months before it's published.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:10 pm to UncleBlazer
I guess you're right. Everyone else in the thread is an idiot, and you are the only one that has a clue. Have a nice day.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:11 pm to ohiovol
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Agreed. I have little doubt he doesn't like some of the changes that have been made. That's a long way off from saying he hates the show. Most of the hate the show gets is from book purists.
I don't think he "hates" the show. It's made him a lot of money. I think he is disappointed in how the show has handled some of his characters and storylines these past few seasons. It's only natural for a creator to feel that way regardless of his ability to separate the two mediums.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:14 pm to KingSlayer
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I guess you're right. Everyone else in the thread is an idiot, and you are the only one that has a clue. Have a nice day.
Dude sorry but regardless of whether GRRM is disappointed in the show or not, he couldn't just shite on it in public.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:17 pm to Tactical1
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It doesn't matter, the legacy of this story is the tv series now and not the novel.
And I realize GRRM has only himself to blame, but I know that has to be gnawing at him. I can empathize with him
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