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Are Remakes a Recent Phenomena ??

Posted on 7/20/16 at 7:23 am
Posted by FLObserver
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 7:23 am
I grew up in the 70's and 80's and i don't remember any remakes from the 50's and 60's. Just seems like alot of remakes being made in the last 10 to 20 years? I mean are the originals not good enough? or is it that hollywood sees they can add todays hot actors/actresses and make a quick buck. Now my question.Has any remake been better than original in the last 20 years? I cant think of any?
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 7:51 am
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 7:28 am to
I wouldn't say recent, but there are more of them.

Also the time between remakes has dropped. Silly that they rebooted Spider Man so fast and are about to do it a 3rd fracking time.
Posted by Oswald
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 7:30 am to
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I grew up in the 70's and 80's and i don't remember any remakes from the 50's and 60's


I grew up during the same time. Except for John Carpenter's 1982 remake of "The Thing", I don't recall any others...although I bet there are a few...
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 7:34 am to
when they changed the phrase remake to reboot the whole situation exploded. not for the better IMO
Posted by Uncle Stu
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 7:36 am to
I feel like CGI / technology has changed the mindset of the Hollywood producer. For the most part, what genre of movies are getting remade?

Sci-Fi and Horror....and then comedies

I know there are a few here and there, but how many dramas are getting rehashed.

CGI has given the truly unoriginal a new lease
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 7:43 am to
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John Carpenter's 1982 remake of "The Thing",

yeah forgot that the 1982 version was a remake. Then the remade the 1982 version which was awful .

This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 7:46 am
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30357 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 7:50 am to
Since this is a remake thread, I'm going to put this here.

The original 3:10 to Yuma is on TCM today.

TCM has been showing Westerns all month.

All day today they've got Glenn Ford Westerns.

Day Of The Evil Gun (1968)
Last Challenge, The (1967)
Rounders, The (1965)
Sheepman, The (1958)
Cowboy (1958)
3:10 to Yuma (1957)
Fastest Gun Alive, The (1956)

At 7:00 pm they start with John Wayne ones.

Red River (1948)
Rio Bravo (1959)
Rio Lobo (1970)
Chisum (1970)
McLintock! (1963)

TCM schedule

Anyone else wish they'd start remaking some of these old Westerns? Some of the less serious ones like The Rounders could easily be made. If they can make and remake all of these super hero movies, Westerns with just as much action could be made. Keeping them from becoming a sh*t show like Wild, Wild West would be my biggest concern.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 7:56 am to
Now that you mention Westerns i did enjoy the remake of True Grit. Though i have to admit i didnt see the original. I wouldnt mind them remaking some of the classics westerns. I do like a good western.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30357 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:05 am to
Was thinking remaking some of the John Wayne ones might be hard, because I can't think of anyone that could fill those shoes. The ones where he has buddies, ElDorado, Rio Lobo, The War Wagon, even Sons of Katie Elder wouldn't be that hard.

Just about any Western with "buddies" could be remade. Hopefully they could keep themselves from CGI'ing them up.

ETA:
I hope The Magnificent Seven does really well and we see more of them!
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 8:10 am
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:08 am to
The 3:10 to Yuma remake was awesome.

But yeah, 90% of all remakes blow. Same goes for reboots and sequels from films that are decades old as well as TV shows.

I'm holding out hope for Twin Peaks though.
Posted by JW
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:10 am to
Cape Fear comes to mind in the 90's
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29365 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:16 am to
I mean there have always been remakes. Sabrina was a remake. Oceans 11 was a remake (and the Clooney version was far better than the Sinatra version). Others that come to mind are Thomas Crown Affair, Guess Who(s Coming to Dinner). If I'm not mistaken, the Warren Beatty version of Heaven Can Wait was a remake of a movie from the 50s, and then itself was remade with Chris Rock. How many different versions of Its A Wonderful Life have you seen? A Christmas Carol?

What's changed is pop culture. We are as far from Ghostbusters now as Marty was from his parents in BTTF. The difference is these movies are ingrained in our collective reference whereas most movies from the 50s are not. And most of the time it's the actors that are responsible. Don't believe me? Go watch some of Eric Stoltzs footage as Marty Mcfly.

Imagine NBC remaking Seinfeld with a gender reversed cast. Seinfeld references are so ingrained in daily speech people say them without even realizing it. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

So to me, it's one thing to remake an idea that's been made before. Hollywood does it all the time. But it's something else to recycle a movie that's very much current. It's lazy.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:16 am to
quote:

Are Remakes a Recent Phenomena ??


No they remade a lot of films from the silent era once talkies came out.

Ben-Hur, which they are remaking again, originally came out in 1907 and was remade in 1925 & 1959. The Heston one we all know was actually the second remake.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
20220 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:50 am to
Mutiny on the Bounty in 1962 with Marlon Brando was remade in 1984 with Mel Gibson. The 1962 version was a remake of the earlier 1935 film with Clark Gable (which I believe was the best of the three).
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:56 am to
quote:

Mutiny on the Bounty in 1962 with Marlon Brando was remade in 1984 with Mel Gibson. The 1962 version was a remake of the earlier 1935 film with Clark Gable (which I believe was the best of the three).


Good example.
Posted by Tackle74
Columbia, MO
Member since Mar 2012
5252 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 9:15 am to
Ben Hur was a silent movie then remade in the 50's as was the 10 Commandments. But yeah this rehash of old movies and tv shows is overall pretty pathetic. While there are exceptions (True Grit) overall the remakes are lacking.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39165 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 9:26 am to
Going back to the dawn of movies, the famous Dracula and Frankenstein movies are both remakes. The Universal monster movies had a bunch of sequels and reboots too. The Wizard of Oz is also a remake.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 9:27 am to
Remakes have been occurring for millenia.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39165 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 9:36 am to
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So to me, it's one thing to remake an idea that's been made before.

I would bet there's at least 50 movies of Romeo and Juliet, just from major studios, since movies began. No one complains about another R&J remake. There's probably more if you consider stuff like Westside Story and Romeo Must Die. There's a ton of Dracula movies too but a lot of those have different plots.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 9:41 am to
I feel there is a big difference betweeen remakes or reboots of classic films based off historical records or novels /stories etc...


It's one thing to do a different take on Ben Hur or Noah or even Dracula and Frankenstein than three reboots of Batman or Spiderman.

Some stories can be remade multiple times due to the deepness and structure of the story.

If the depth of the story can sustain "remakes or reboots" than ok. But some stories only need to be told once
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