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Posted on 4/24/15 at 8:34 pm to
Posted by abellsujr
New England
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 8:34 pm to
Why don't they just have a mass meeting with speakers protesting American Sniper? That's their right. Speak against it. Don't censor.
This post was edited on 4/24/15 at 8:35 pm
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 8:36 pm to
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should they burn the books and DVDs that may offend people in the library?


That's rhetorical, you're not looking for a real answer.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 8:38 pm to
You're right. Nice catch. It's pretty obvious that they shouldn't. And yet it's OK to censor this movie?
This post was edited on 4/24/15 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 8:39 pm to
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yet it's OK to censor this movie?


Except it wasn't.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 8:41 pm to
But it's OK to not allow it to be screened on campus? You're not making your position very clear or giving any reasons on why you feel the way you do. Should they allow religious meetings on campus?

ETA: I think I'm understanding what you're saying. Basically it's OK to have subject matter that may offend people on campus in the library. It's Ok to have organize a viewing of said material on campus. It's OK to have a religious get together on campus. It's just not OK to allow a screening in a theater location on campus. Got it.
This post was edited on 4/24/15 at 8:49 pm
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 8:51 pm to
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But it's OK to not allow it to be screened on campus? You're not making your position very clear or giving any reasons on why you feel the way you do.


Why does it have too, if anything it sounded like a peaceful protest to not have it screened.

No one is stopping anyone else from seeing it, your only problem it seems is that now they don't get to see it for free.

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Should they allow religious meetings on campus?


I really don't see how this or your library fixation is comparable.

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I think I'm understanding what you're saying. Basically it's OK to have subject matter that may offend people on campus in the library. It's Ok to have organize a viewing of said material on campus. It's OK to have a religious get together on campus. It's just not OK to allow a screening in a theater location on campus. Got it


Whatever you have to tell yourself to..... get whatever feeling you are chasing.
This post was edited on 4/24/15 at 8:53 pm
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35253 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:43 pm to
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Why does it have too
Why does it not have to? It's what they want to do that was prevented. It's not against the law. It's a free screening on campus. You don't have to go.
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No one is stopping anyone else from seeing it, your only problem it seems is that now they don't get to see it for free.
My problem is that they are not allowed the freedom to see it in a big group for free with the permission of the studio.. It makes no sense.
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I really don't see how this or your library fixation is comparable.
It's a group of people talking about things that are not believed by other people. Some might even be offended by them, but they are allowed to happen because we have freedom of speech.
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Whatever you have to tell yourself to..... get whatever feeling you are chasing.
Well since you have no clear position and you only answer selected questions, I'm left with no choice other than to go by the very little you have said.
This post was edited on 4/24/15 at 10:14 pm
Posted by dead money
kyle, tx
Member since Feb 2014
1391 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:09 pm to
This is Islam using religion to dictate basic freedoms based on a bunch of nonfounded claims. The film isn't racist at all. That's like Germans protesting Schindlers List because it portrays them in a horrific light.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35253 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:41 pm to
It looks like they're getting overwhelming private support in the efforts to allow the movie to be shown.
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“The feedback we have received today has been overwhelmingly in favor of screening the film.
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If the University of Maryland does not reverse the decision to cancel a screening of “American Sniper,” then I will organize and sponsor a screening for students myself.
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Former NFL quarterback and current radio host Boomer Esiason said he is cutting off the University of Maryland, where he played during his college career, after its decision to cancel a screening of American Sniper.

Esiason, who is the host of the popular Boomer & Carton show in New York, said on Friday that he is “never donating another dime” to Maryland after it caved to pressure from Muslim student groups and canceled a planned screening of American Sniper.

Esiason said he was “deeply saddened and insulted” by the decision.
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A state lawmaker launched an online campaign on Friday to overturn a decision to cancel a screening of American Sniper at the University of Maryland after a Muslim student group objected to the film about a U.S. Navy marksman in Iraq.

Neil Parrott, a Republican state delegate, said the decision to cancel the screening at the university’s College Park campus was an exercise in political correctness and infringes on First Amendment rights to free speech.

“The university should not let the complaints of a few students result in the cancellation of an important film honoring an American hero and accurately portraying the horrors of war,” Parrott said in a statement.
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This post was edited on 4/24/15 at 11:47 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:47 pm to
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Former NFL quarterback and current radio host Boomer Esiason said he is cutting off the University of Maryland, where he played during his college career, after its decision to cancel a screening of American Sniper.


Meh. That's just as retarded as censorship of this movie by the school.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35253 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:50 pm to
Maybe, but I wouldn't donate money to an organization that blatantly rejects freedom of speech, either. That's just my opinion.
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:53 am to
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Maybe, but I wouldn't donate money to an organization that blatantly rejects freedom of speech


Just freedom to protest huh?

No one suppressed anyone's freedom of speech here.

They can still watch the film on campus if they want.
This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 12:54 am
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35253 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:54 am to
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Just freedom to protest huh?

No one suppressed anyone's freedom of speech here.
They have the right to protest. Just not censor.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35253 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:55 am to
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They can still watch the film on campus if they want.
Just not in a theater for some reason.
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:57 am to
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They have the right to protest. Just not censor.


"They" didn't decide to not screen the film.
This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 12:58 am
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35253 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:58 am to
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They didn't decide to not screen the film.
They decided to delay it due to protest. They decided to censor it for a time. Early reports were that they delayed it indefinitely.
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:00 am to
The university decided to delay due to the peaceful protest.

Which you agree they have the right to do, you just don't support it I suppose.

This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 1:02 am
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35253 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:01 am to
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"They" didn't decide to not screen the film.
"They" protested the censorship of it, which they have a right to do. The University of Maryland needs to not be swayed by protest when the results affect free speech.
This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 1:03 am
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:03 am to
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when the results affect free speech



But that has not happened.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35253 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:04 am to
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The university decided to delay due to the peaceful protest.

Which you agree they have the right to do, you just don't support it I suppose.
Yes, they have a right to protest. The University has a responsibility to not be affected by such protest where the results eliminate free speech.
This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 1:06 am
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