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re: A new topic that has never been discussed before: Most OVERRATED Actor

Posted on 6/21/13 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 2:12 pm to
I think RDJ is a good enough actor and have no issues with his work.

Overrated to me would be someone who gets critical acclaim and award nominations that just doesn't do it for me.

And that person is Kevin Costner
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 2:14 pm to
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Pretty sure anyone can choose any role they please.



Wat
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 2:16 pm to
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Ive seen all those. He peaked in The Newsies



Just because you love musicals doesn't mean Bale's peak was Newsies.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 2:17 pm to
The only answer I can think of is Nic Cage, and that's stretching. The man is an Oscar winning actor, but in almost all of his movies it seems like he can't act his way out of a paper bag.

RDJ is a very good actor. If you can't see how fantastic he was in Tropic Thunder, Home for the Holidays, Less Than Zero, and Chaplin, as well as Good Night and Good Luck and A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints, I don't know what to tell you. He's very diverse. Of late, he's been churning out superhero movies and major blockbusters, playing a snarky genius in both Iron Man and Sherlock Holmes. Of course it appears he's overrated. He is playing the same (or a similar) character in each of those franchises. I also think you can't look past the fact that Tony Stark has completely changed in every Iron Man. His character evolution is in large part thanks to RDJ, who not only pushed the writers to show Tony's growth, but also portrayed it believably while maintaining the camp and debonair attitude inherent in Tony Stark.

As for Will Smith, he has had several turns in fantastic parts, including his first major movie: Six Degrees of Separation. He is an actor that can make difficult characters and scenes seem easy. He is always at least part Will Smith, but he does a good job of creating a character. In Ali, Pursuit of Happyness, Seven Pounds, and I Am Legend, his performances are very real, very difficult to endure. On the other hand, he can play comedy and action well. Bad Boys, ID4, and I, Robot are all enjoyable action flicks, while Hitch, MIB, and, of course, the Fresh Prince, are very funny. He is, in many ways, the black Tom Hanks.


Christian Bale may be one of the top five living actors. Like Will Smith, RDJ, Johnny Depp, and (to an extent) Leo, he has taken on a lot of blockbuster roles that are fairly limiting. But he is fantastic in nearly everything he's in, from Empire of the Sun to American Psycho to the Machinist to Rescue Dawn, the Prestige, and the Fighter, he transforms himself into his characters at LEAST to the extent DDL does, and in the Machinist and the Fighter, I'd say even more so.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 2:17 pm to
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There were 3 co-leads in that movie and he was by far the weakest.


Jack was the weakest.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 2:18 pm to
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If y'all can throw out bullshite like saying Will Smith is overrated then there is no problem with me throwing out Christian Bale.


Um, no. Christian Bale's roles are far more diverse and more demanding than any project Smith has done.

I guess you think you can bring DDL into this as well for that?
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 2:20 pm to
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Johnny Depp.



Edward Scissorhands
Blow
Sweeney Todd
Rango
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas


I mean, he's a good actor, but the average person thinks Johnny Depp is one of the best actors in the world and can play anything. He's really not. He's good at playing goofy characters, but it's really hard for me to take Johnny Depp completely seriously.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 2:23 pm to
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The only answer I can think of is Nic Cage, and that's stretching. The man is an Oscar winning actor, but in almost all of his movies it seems like he can't act his way out of a paper bag.


Everyone sees Nic Cage as a joke and a punchline these days. I don't think he is (currently at least) overrated.
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As for Will Smith, he has had several turns in fantastic parts, including his first major movie: Six Degrees of Separation. He is an actor that can make difficult characters and scenes seem easy. He is always at least part Will Smith, but he does a good job of creating a character. In Ali, Pursuit of Happyness, Seven Pounds, and I Am Legend, his performances are very real, very difficult to endure. On the other hand, he can play comedy and action well. Bad Boys, ID4, and I, Robot are all enjoyable action flicks, while Hitch, MIB, and, of course, the Fresh Prince, are very funny. He is, in many ways, the black Tom Hanks.


I just don't think any of those performances were that great. Granted I haven't seen Seven Pounds, so I may be wrong in that regard, but he just serves the absolute minimum on what the script and the director ask from him.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 2:25 pm to
Russell Crowe


And it pains me to say because I love Gladiator and Cinderella Man
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 2:30 pm to
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Seven Pounds


I have to admit Will Smith was pretty damn good in this role
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 2:30 pm to
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Russell Crowe
you're joking right?

A Beautiful Mind
Gladiator
Master and Commander
Cinderella Man
This post was edited on 6/21/13 at 2:33 pm
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 2:33 pm to
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I just don't think any of those performances were that great. Granted I haven't seen Seven Pounds, so I may be wrong in that regard, but he just serves the absolute minimum on what the script and the director ask from him.


To each their own. I just think he gets a bad rap, particularly lately since he's foisting his no-talent kids onto America.
Posted by kizomich
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 2:34 pm to
Sean Penn's overacting makes me cringe. He's universally respected, but I can't buy into any character he plays. I always feel like I'm watching Sean Penn ACT.

IS THAT MY DAUGHTER? WAAAHHHH! WAAAAHHH! = Oscar
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 2:35 pm to
He sucked in master and commander IMO

Like I said I just think he's overrated
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 2:36 pm to
This is easy: Johnny Depp - There's no more overvalued actor in Hollywood than he.

Will Smith isn't an actor, he's an action star. Who EVER says Keanu Reeves is a good actor? He can't be overrated.

RDJ is also a star, not really an actor's actor. He does what he does well and gets the appropriate level of praise.

Anyone saying Bale is foolish. Gosling is too young.

And...


*drumbeats*





I'm warming up to Russell Crowe in his old age. So I'll defend him. He's also very good. Hell hath freauxzen.
This post was edited on 6/21/13 at 2:40 pm
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 2:42 pm to
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Johnny Depp - There's no more overvalued actor in Hollywood than he.


I agree. Granted he has had a couple of good roles, for the most part he chooses to play a character who teters on the edge of emotional stability, most are borderline crazy. I would argue that it is easier to play a crazy person than it is to play a real everyday human being and make it feel real/emotional.

Hence the love for Brad Pitt in Moneyball. That role is unbelievably difficult to pull of the way he did
This post was edited on 6/21/13 at 2:44 pm
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 2:43 pm to
RDJ was an actor's actor in Chaplin.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 2:47 pm to
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RDJ was an actor's actor in Chaplin.


While I agree, he's not really touted as an skilled actor or chameleon today. He's just RDJ, pretty solid doing whatever the heck he wants to do.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 2:51 pm to
I agree. I really like his on screen persona.

You know who confuses me, John Malkovich. I think he is really good but I haven't seen him in anything serious in awhile. Yes I just saw a commercial for Red 2.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 2:52 pm to
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You know who confuses me, John Malkovich. I think he is really good but I haven't seen him in anything serious in awhile. Yes I just saw a commercial for Red 2.


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