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re: Yes or No: Duncan is the better player than Kobe all time
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:36 pm to AjaxFury
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:36 pm to AjaxFury
quote:So what you're saying is that you don't like metrics that don't support your opinion?
TBF, most of y'all have Lebron's dick so far down your throats you have trouble articulating your positions without gurgling new age "advanced defensive metrics", which are the equivalent to the sound of gagging
So, you concede you're biased.
The idea of wanting LESS information to judge players is so weird. Why in the world would you want less information?
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Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:36 pm to monkeybutt
Plus, I just got to page 9 finally trying to reply to you relentless fiends... 
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:36 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
Given all these graphics everyone is posting with timespans he specifically brought up, will he move the goalposts or concede he was incorrect?
This post was edited on 5/16/17 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:39 pm to theducks
quote:
Bryant is about as likely to hit the big shot as any player.
Welcome to the party!
I'm the first one who debunked the "Kobe is the most clutch" myth. Page 2 I think.
But, according to you guys I'm "biased" because I don't bow to the altar of Lebron cult thinking.
Excuse me if I consider that he plays in a WNBA conference his entire career & did his best to weaken it further when he had the chance.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:40 pm to shel311
quote:Never.
will he move the goalposts or concede he was incorrect?
He would rather rely on memory, which is fine, but you have to admit bias if you're going to consistently ignore objective stats.
This post was edited on 5/16/17 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:44 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:
you have a counter-argument other than memory and awards, let's hear it.
Whatever stat nerd that invented that meaningless rubbish was clearly in the Lebron cult.
It's made up & the ingredients are Coca-Cola
Like I said, if those guys knew more about defensive ability than the NBA coaches, then those fricks would be the ones coaching.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:44 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:Imagine you taking your personal savings, going to a financial advisor to assist with deciding what to do with your money.
He would rather rely on memory, which is fine, but you have to admit bias if you're going to consistently ignore objective stats.
Then imagine one of the junior financial advisors sitting in on the meeting with a mountain of unbiased data, spreadsheets, and metrics to guide you on what would be best to do with your life savings.
Then imagine the financial advisor just tossing those in the garbage and saying he doesn't need these new age spreadsheets made by these stat nerds, he knows how to invest your life savings based on feel, what he's seen in the market during his 25 year career.
Every single one of us would walk out of that room with our money, finding another place to help us out. But in sports, so many people think it's completely ok to want less information.
Sports make people so weird.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:45 pm to AjaxFury
quote:Why is it meaningless?
stat nerd that invented that meaningless rubbish
quote:Explain why teams are investing in and hiring guys solely for tracking data and metrics.
Like I said, if those guys knew more about defensive ability than the NBA coaches, then those fricks would be the ones coaching.
This post was edited on 5/16/17 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:45 pm to AjaxFury
quote:So how many points are given up is meaningless?
Whatever stat nerd that invented that meaningless rubbish was clearly in the Lebron cult.
This post was edited on 5/16/17 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:45 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
Of course, because man to man, on ball defense is only a portion of a defensive possession, if it even occurs in any given possession, then it's only a portion of the defensive rating.
So Kobe gets penalized because he has shite teammates who don't rotate correctly? Seems legit & soft as Charmin
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:46 pm to AjaxFury
quote:What makes you think Kobe's teammates didn't rotate better than Lebron's?
So Kobe gets penalized because he has shite teammates who don't rotate correctly? Seems legit & soft as Charmin
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:47 pm to TD_Hero
Yeah, let's compare apples and oranges...
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:47 pm to AjaxFury
quote:Except I showed you an example of a season where he won first team all defense, and they played significantly better defense when he was off the court.
So Kobe gets penalized because he has shite teammates who don't rotate correctly?
Did they only learn to rotate when he was off the court?
This post was edited on 5/16/17 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:48 pm to El Campo Tiger
quote:They were both basketball players in the same exact era.
Yeah, let's compare apples and oranges...
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:51 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
You do realize teams hire those statisticians, and at a increasing rate, right?
And we aren't talking about coaching, we are talking data across hundreds of thousands of possessions per season across a league. Those are fundamentally different tasks.
If it's so important to teams, that data would reach the coaches.
Which means they could just as easily use that data to pick their 1st team all defense selections. It would be easier, right?
Obviously, they DONT USE IT. Which means the coaches know it's bullshite Coca Cola formulas that are useless to them while they're trying to brew moonshine. Those math formulas are for nerds to justify having a job & guys like Morey to slink into roles as GM for the Rockets making a fricking mockery of the game.
"Don't shoot an open 2, kick it out for a contested 3 if you don't have a layup" DERP! Real winners, those guys
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:53 pm to AjaxFury
quote:
Whatever stat nerd that invented that meaningless rubbish was clearly in the Lebron cult.
Definitely not biased.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:54 pm to theducks
quote:
There's a "moneyball" GM in HOU that has been kicking Dallas' arse fwiw.
Yea, after Dirk turned into Methuselah.
Or I guess you forgot the Mavs beating that arse down 0-2 on the road & blowing Houston out by 40. Or winning a chip. Or 11 straight 50 win seasons.
But Morey is the reason. It has nothing to do with Kidd, Terry, Marion & Dirk being 40
This post was edited on 5/16/17 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:55 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:No, not that one!!!
That 2005-2006 Lakers team who gave up 6 fewer points and a lower shooting percentage when Kobe was on the bench?
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:55 pm to AjaxFury
quote:I'm sure it does. But I doubt they care as much about getting the individual statistics of each player in the NBA to vote. We've seen how poor the coaches polling was in CFB. They have other things to worry about.
If it's so important to teams, that data would reach the coaches.
quote:They don't look at data? Hmmm.
Obviously, they DONT USE IT.
So when presented with objective data, you're now banking on coaches being ignorant to support your own ignorance?
This post was edited on 5/16/17 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:57 pm to AjaxFury
quote:It does, and they do use it. Why do you think it doesn't?
If it's so important to teams, that data would reach the coaches.
Where do you rank Brad Stevens in terms of Xs and Os as an NBA coach?
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