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re: Would Lebron leave Cleveland... again?
Posted on 6/6/16 at 4:08 pm to buckeye_vol
Posted on 6/6/16 at 4:08 pm to buckeye_vol
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Are you basing this on the practicality (salary and salary cap)?
Umm...yeah. Duh.
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 4:13 pm to Weagle25
quote:Well it's already an unlikely hypothetical so I wasn't sure of the parameters.
Umm...yeah. Duh.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 4:13 pm to vengeanceofrain
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He's 31 years old and has been in the league 13+ years. you could argue he's already past his prime but let's say he's in his prime and maybe has another 1, 2 years left at the level he's at now before he can't physically impose his will on the opponet.
He has had zero major injury issues and keeps himself in insane physical shape.
The notion that you wouldn't sign him because of age is so ridiculously laughable.
He has so many skill sets and can play so many positions, that even when he starts to deteriorate physically, he will still be able to rebound, facilitate and even score to a degree, as I'm sure he'd start developing his jump shot more.
I'd gladly take LBJ on my team for the next 5+ years.
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That's it and you're a a fricking idiot if you think otherwise.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 4:18 pm to dcrews
You could make the argument that he won't be worth the money he'll demand in a few years time. That argument really only stands for teams that are currently championship caliber or have a really good young core.
I don't think any team is going to completely blow up their core if they have something really good going just to get an aging Lebron. He probably won't be a top 5 player by the end of his next contract.
I don't think any team is going to completely blow up their core if they have something really good going just to get an aging Lebron. He probably won't be a top 5 player by the end of his next contract.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 6/6/16 at 4:56 pm to Weagle25
He has lost out on the chance to go down as the greatest ever. I expect him to take a serious pay cut soon allowing Cleveland to keep it's young core and bring in some of his buddies chasing a title. Whether it works is anyone's guess, but that is the only way they win anything as long as the Warriors are together. Oh and they need to trade Love or Irving. Can't have two guys who can't play defense as your best 5.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 6:35 pm to Goldrush25
He will end his career with cavs he can dictate what he wants there, theres only 4 teams that can compete for ring... Gsw, spurs, okc, cavs. The blueprint for the nba is now one superstar and 2 all stars
Posted on 6/6/16 at 6:43 pm to buckeye_vol
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don't see any way they wouldn't glass accept him. They would go from one of the greatest teams to the greatest team by far.
Lebron would at best be a better Draymond who also wanted the ball more, I don't think he'd settle for being the 3rd option and making him the first option would make the Warriors worse.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 6:59 pm to montanagator
quote:At best the third option? Lebron would be the slasher with the two best shooters in the league on the outside.
Lebron would at best be a better Draymond who also wanted the ball more, I don't think he'd settle for being the 3rd option and making him the first option would make the Warriors worse.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 7:01 pm to montanagator
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Lebron would at best be a better Draymond who also wanted the ball more
At BEST?
Come on....
Posted on 6/6/16 at 7:04 pm to montanagator
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Lebron would at best be a better Draymond
Posted on 6/6/16 at 7:21 pm to Pels318
he is the one that has forced the moves for all of the players on that team. he wanted all these people to be on the team and contract extended he should sit there and take what is handed since he wants to be best player, coach, and GM. And I like Lebron a lot
Posted on 6/6/16 at 7:33 pm to Pels318
but they have that brilliant bench coach in place!
Posted on 6/6/16 at 7:38 pm to buckeye_vol
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Lebron would at best be a better Draymond who also wanted the ball more, I don't think he'd settle for being the 3rd option and making him the first option would make the Warriors worse.
At best the third option? Lebron would be the slasher with the two best shooters in the league on the outside.
Whose the Warriors current slasher? Oh they don't use an offense based around one? Huh.
Why would the Warriors risk screwing up a motion offense that just put up arguably the greatest season in history for drive and kick approach?
Also, why on Earth would they want to take the ball out of Steph's hands in favor of a worse ball handler who lacks the outside shot of a Draymond Green.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 6/6/16 at 7:39 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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At BEST?
Come on....
LeBron's a better player but unless you think he'd suddenly be happy running through screens and setting up downlow I can't really see why the Warriors would do it..
I guess it comes down to- would LeBron be willing to defer to Steph and shift into a secondary role. Because restructuring arguably the best team in NBA history around LeBron seems asinine.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 6/6/16 at 7:46 pm to montanagator
The key to the Warriors' success is that, yes, they have their stars, but on any given night, it's usually the cumulative team effort that kills opponents over time. LeBron going to GS wouldn't mean he'd be the 3rd fiddle and no more every night--it'd just mean he wouldn't have to be the focal point 97 percent of the time. He'd certainly have his nights, though.
This is all hypothetical of course (and, for the record, James is not ever going to the Warriors), but if LeBron somehow someway found himself in GS as teammates with the majority of this Dubs roster, I guarantee you 3rd banana wouldn't be his ceiling role on the team.
This is all hypothetical of course (and, for the record, James is not ever going to the Warriors), but if LeBron somehow someway found himself in GS as teammates with the majority of this Dubs roster, I guarantee you 3rd banana wouldn't be his ceiling role on the team.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 6/6/16 at 7:50 pm to dcrews
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The notion that you wouldn't sign him because of age is so ridiculously laughable.
He has so many skill sets and can play so many positions, that even when he starts to deteriorate physically, he will still be able to rebound, facilitate and even score to a degree, as I'm sure he'd start developing his jump shot more.
Everyone with eyes can see that he isn't anywhere close to the same player he once was despite never having a major injury....and the fact is, he just isn't a very good shooter. I seriously doubt that a guy that's lost a step and can't really shoot that well after 13 years would ever improve much, if at all. He's still a great player, far and away the best in that shitty conference, but he's not nearly as good as he used to be.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 6/6/16 at 8:33 pm to MsState of mind
quote:He should do whatever he wants to do after his contract.
he is the one that has forced the moves for all of the players on that team. he wanted all these people to be on the team and contract extended he should sit there and take what is handed since he wants to be best player, coach, and GM. And I like Lebron a lot
Posted on 6/6/16 at 8:34 pm to montanagator
quote:Well LeBron can be whatever they him to be, but all their players slash. Steph's very good at it; LeBron would be better.
Whose the Warriors current slasher? Oh they don't use an offense based around one? Huh.
quote:Well Steve Kerr would make it work, but they would be better with LeBron, Curry, Thompson, and Green than with no LeBron.
Why would the Warriors risk screwing up a motion offense that just put up arguably the greatest season in history for drive and kick approach?
quote:Well the ball would still be In Steph's hands, but Green is a marginally better jump shooter but an inferior scorer. Regardless, Kerr would set in the offense to be most efficient. BUT arguing LeBron would be the third best option is just delusional.
Also, why on Earth would they want to take the ball out of Steph's hands in favor of a worse ball handler who lacks the outside shot of a Draymond Green.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 6/6/16 at 8:36 pm to TigerStripes06
quote:All of this can be true and virtually every team with the cap room would still rightfully give anything to sign him.
Everyone with eyes can see that he isn't anywhere close to the same player he once was despite never having a major injury....and the fact is, he just isn't a very good shooter. I seriously doubt that a guy that's lost a step and can't really shoot that well after 13 years would ever improve much, if at all. He's still a great player, far and away the best in that shitty conference, but he's not nearly as good as he used to be.
Even with all you said being true, he's still at worst the 2nd best player in the game and very arguable the best. Even if he slowly declines, that team is still going to have a top 3-5 player for the next few seasons. Yea, they'd want that, by all means.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 8:40 pm to montanagator
quote:They wouldn't have to center it around him. He wasn't always the center of the offense in Miami, and they ran a small-ball offense, but since the run at a much faster pace, LeBron could have a lower usage and still get just as many touches. Regardless, Kerr would be able to figure it out, much better than any of us. But if you don't think they would be taken to another level with that team plus the best player not named Curry, then I don't don't know to tell you.
I guess it comes down to- would LeBron be willing to defer to Steph and shift into a secondary role. Because restructuring arguably the best team in NBA history around LeBron seems asinine.
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