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re: Why not Boise State to the Big 12

Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:01 am to
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:01 am to
I understand beggars (big 12) can't be choosers, but damn some of the expansion suggestions I've seen here are just fricking retarded.
Posted by hsfolk
Member since Sep 2009
18578 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:04 am to
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I'd much ather the conference pursue Louisville, Cincinnati, or BYU.


doesn't make much sense for Louisville to leave the ACC
Posted by Grandioso
Driftwood, TX
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:06 am to
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doesn't make much sense for Louisville to leave the ACC


I know, I'm just throwing some suggestions out there outside of Boise (and Houston/SMU).
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41246 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:17 am to
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Why not Boise State to the Big 12


$$$

1) 1/10 of the current TV contracts >>> 1/11 of the contract with Boise State

2) Travel, Boise Idaho to West Virginia and Lubbock for basketball, baseball, and women's sports adds even more expenses.

3) Most of the Big 12 athletic departments aren't turning a profit, adding Boise State is something that they won't to justify.
Posted by Hearing3
Member since Dec 2015
380 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:19 am to
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Wonder if stadium size has anything to do with it? It only holds 36,500ish.


no TV sets. teeny stadium. long distance. Houston makes more sense.

Posted by Switzerland
Member since Jun 2008
1671 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:26 am to
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If academics and research werent paramount, much of the P5 would no longer be P5. The big 12 is somewhat of an exception though
wrong. big 12 didn't want louisville because of its academics. same reason why the directional florida schools aren't in the big 12 either.
This post was edited on 12/24/15 at 11:27 am
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23925 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:29 am to
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That's why an athlete can have a 22 ACT score and get in Tulane, but my son with a 4.09 GPA and a 26 ACT has to go through a rigorous application process and still probably won't get in. It's all about $$$$$$$$.



there's a Daniel Tosh test taker joke somewhere in there
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59134 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:29 am to
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Ok, if academics are such a big deal, then why are athletes admitted to P5 schools when they can't read? Dexter Manley graduated from Okie Lite and when he got to the Redskins they found out he couldn't read. Jerrell Powe went to Ole Miss, but was in Special Ed at Wayne County because he couldn't read. No way in hell do those guys get into college if they aren't football players. Academics my arse. Major college athletics is all about $$$$$$$$$.


You are comparing apples and oranges. I know it is the same word, but saying the academics at Boise or whatever school we are talking about is a different context than talking about individual players, especially if you are going to go back 40 years for Dexter Manley lol. The NCAA did add some standards since the days of Chris Washburn scoring an 480 on the SAT.

Yeah, schools admit athletes that would not get in through regular admissions both even then there are guys that get into some schools that can't into others. So while academic standards are "bent" for some athletes, the standards and reputation of the school overall do matter, especially to the people that run the schools and ultimately make these decisions like adding teams to a conference.
This post was edited on 12/24/15 at 11:30 am
Posted by accnodefense
Trump Fan
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:39 am to
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no TV sets. teeny stadium. long distance. Houston makes more sense.


Actually Houston doesn't make more sense
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23833 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:43 am to
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Actually Houston doesn't make more sense
its easy on the travel for the majority of the conference though
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
9444 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 12:25 pm to
Wait a second, surely you aren't clowning on a kid for making a 26 on the ACT? You do know the national average is a 20, and 83% percent who take it score less than a 26? I'm sure you made real high on it. Loser.
This post was edited on 12/24/15 at 12:35 pm
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36146 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 12:47 pm to
I'm sure it has already been pointed out that their deficiency (which is more important than academics) is money.

Idaho
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23925 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 1:02 pm to
I am "clowning" a little bit, yeah. I would imagine his problem is a 26 ACT is not indicative of a student with a GPA north of 4.0

I had like a 2.75 GPA in high school and made a 29 on the ACT, and I don't consider myself to be a beautiful mind
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
9444 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 1:37 pm to
You are very odd then. Either you didn't give a shite in high school, got lucky and guessed right on the ACT, or a little of both. A 26 is good regardless of GPA. Now, if it were a 20-22 with a 4.0 that might be a problem, but when you score 83% better than everyone else that takes it that's not bad. The other kids in his class that are 4.0(about 7) have scored from 25-27. I don't know where you went to high school, but 29 and 30's are not a mormal thing. Now,my son's not genius level, but he's not a dumarse either.
This post was edited on 12/24/15 at 1:41 pm
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23925 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 1:54 pm to
private schools are really squirrelly when it comes to admissions in the first place. my cousin(my age almost to the date) was around a 4.0 student in NOLA,35 ACT etc etc and he got like a half scholly to Georgetown, but couldn't even get accepted to the University of Chicago. who knows exactly what they're looking for
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125485 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 2:03 pm to
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Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, West Virginia, and Kansas State are the shite academic schools in the Big 12.


WVU doesn't have shite academics

The school gets a bad wrap b/c we lower our admission standards for instate students to give every West Virginia resident a chance to go to college.

Its bullshite and lots of people are trying to get that changed and it has some what already since we moved to the Big 12.

WVU has a huge out of state student population and its pissed some people off that our out of state standards ( I grew up in VA) are such much different than the WV natives who are let in and pay near to nothing in tuition.

But its part of the schools mission statement.
This post was edited on 12/24/15 at 2:04 pm
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
9444 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 2:48 pm to
I think a lot of it now with private schools is what you've done as far as organizations, volunteer projects, community service,leadership roles,and stuff like that. Tulane has a 27% acceptance rate, and my son hasn't been turned down. The only reason he applied is that they chose him to apply without a fee.They don't really have the major he's looking at, but he figured he'd give it a shot since they asked. Of course, MSU has accepted him and offered scholarship money, and being that both of his parents are alums, I'm sure that's where he'll end up.
This post was edited on 12/24/15 at 2:49 pm
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23925 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 3:32 pm to
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think a lot of it now with private schools is what you've done as far as organizations, volunteer projects, community service,leadership roles,and stuff like that. Tulane has a 27% acceptance rate, and my son hasn't been turned down. The only reason he applied is that they chose him to apply without a fee.They don't really have the major he's looking at, but he figured he'd give it a shot since they asked. Of course, MSU has accepted him and offered scholarship money, and being that both of his parents are alums, I'm sure that's where he'll end up


similar to my story. ended up at LSU and didn't think twice about it. best decision I ever made

it'll be a tough choice if he does get into Tulane, but I'd imagine MSU weighs on his mind even more than you'd imagine
This post was edited on 12/24/15 at 3:33 pm
Posted by ChunkyLover54
Member since Apr 2015
6530 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 8:15 pm to
Iowa State is an AAU school
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80476 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:05 pm to
Actually, that would be the Big XII.

AAU schools:

Big Ten - 13
PAC 12 - 6
ACC - 5
SEC - 4
Big XII - 3

Tier 2 or worse schools:

Big Ten - 0
ACC - 1 (Louisville)
Pac 12 - 0
SEC - 0
Big 12 - 2 (Texas Tech, West Virginia)
This post was edited on 12/24/15 at 10:06 pm
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