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re: Why is there so much parity in college baseball?
Posted on 6/1/15 at 12:47 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 6/1/15 at 12:47 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
That's pretty awesome right there. And I think they'd probably have a little bit more success than you think. Some of these guys are pitiful baseball players. Even on good teams.
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 12:47 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Absolutely not. Some could probably play and beat the shite 4 seeds like Texas Southern and Florida A&M, but beyond that no way.
Right. To say they could make and compete in the NCAA tournament would imply that the entire roster is good enough to either get drafted or sign with a D1 school after two year. Even the top JUCOs around the country only place about 5 guys in D1 per year with the rest going D2, NAIA, or just ending their careers.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 12:49 pm to Jim Rockford
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Fullerton is a force in the tournament year in and year
Fullerton has been good for a very long time. Auggie established that program years ago
Posted on 6/1/15 at 12:49 pm to ReauxlTide222
Could see them stealing a game because I know there are some really solid pitchers in JUCO, but I don't see them winning a best of three against your average 3 seed. JMO. They just aren't as deep even if there is some elite talent
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Right. To say they could make and compete in the NCAA tournament would imply that the entire roster is good enough to either get drafted or sign with a D1 school after two year. Even the top JUCOs around the country only place about 5 guys in D1 per year with the rest going D2, NAIA, or just ending their careers.
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This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 6/1/15 at 12:49 pm to ReauxlTide222
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I'd imagine there are plenty JUCOs in Florida alone that could compete and win in the NCAA baseball tourney.
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 12:50 pm to Boomshockalocka
Scholar ship limitations
Posted on 6/1/15 at 12:52 pm to ProjectP2294
Or they have a couple pitchers who got drafted out of HS but didn't ink the 750,000 dollar deal they wanted so they went to juco so they didn't have to spend 3 years being abused by a top D1 manager.
I might have overstated my point in my first post. But an elite juco team could absolutely compete at the highest level in this tourney. At least I believe so.
I might have overstated my point in my first post. But an elite juco team could absolutely compete at the highest level in this tourney. At least I believe so.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 12:53 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Or they have a couple pitchers who got drafted out of HS but didn't ink the 750,000 dollar deal they wanted so they went to juco so they didn't have to spend 3 years being abused by a top D1 manager.
SO you haven't kept up with how the draft and college baseball have worked in the last decade. That's okay. Just know that things have changed.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 12:55 pm to ProjectP2294
The only pitcher I can think that went that route was Alex Fernandez. He left Miami after being unbeaten and turning down a big bonus in high school (big for me)
Posted on 6/1/15 at 12:57 pm to sms151t
It's as or more common for a big time talent to transfer out of a 4 year to JUCO for draft purposes than for guys to sign with JUCOs out of high school for draft purposes nowadays.
ETA: Since the draft and follow rules changed, JUCOs haven't been getting nearly the talent they used to.
ETA: Since the draft and follow rules changed, JUCOs haven't been getting nearly the talent they used to.
This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 6/1/15 at 12:58 pm to KosmoCramer
This is becoming less the case since pro baseball pays better than football, and the long term effects on the body are not nearly as severe.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 12:59 pm to sms151t
Phil Bickford transferred out to Southern Nevada from Fullerton this year for some reason. It's pretty rare though.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 1:00 pm to ProjectP2294
I know but I was specifically talking about a Pitcher, but just cant recall a Pitcher leaving after a year other than Fernandez. I am sure there have been many. I know you are eligible after 1 year at JUCO.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 1:01 pm to ProjectP2294
Fair enough. They'd still be at a JUCO though. And the list of guys in the bigs who played in JUCO is about as elite as it gets.
And I was just spitballing about why baseball full of parity. Many of the best players don't go to college.
And I was just spitballing about why baseball full of parity. Many of the best players don't go to college.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 1:03 pm to BayouBengals03
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 1:03 pm to ReauxlTide222
Many of the best players do go to college now. Go look at the numbers.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 1:04 pm to Jim Rockford
Fewer barriers to entry for small schools. It doesn't cost a fortune to field a competitive baseball program (unlike football and basketball) and you don't need a huge fan base.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 1:05 pm to sms151t
I get that. But damn near 100% of the best players in football and basketball go to college. Nowhere near that percentage go college in baseball.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 1:06 pm to ReauxlTide222
It is because of draft rules. If you did not have to stay 3 or go directly into NBA you would see more.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 1:08 pm to sms151t
I know, that's why I said it 
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