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re: Why is Mississippi State Ranked Ahead of Florida State?
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:01 am to Mr. Wayne
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:01 am to Mr. Wayne
I understand what you were saying, but I was speaking just the generalizations.
I really believe that there will only be 1 unbeaten this year and the SEC champ will be MU. I am not so sure if LSU wins tonight that all hell will break out and Mizzou finds a way to win the SECCG.
It's about time for an upset in that game.
It's shaping up like when Texas and aTm won in St Louis.
I don't think MU winning in Atlanta will happen, bad wording but I could see it happening.
I really believe that there will only be 1 unbeaten this year and the SEC champ will be MU. I am not so sure if LSU wins tonight that all hell will break out and Mizzou finds a way to win the SECCG.
It's about time for an upset in that game.
It's shaping up like when Texas and aTm won in St Louis.
I don't think MU winning in Atlanta will happen, bad wording but I could see it happening.
This post was edited on 11/8/14 at 9:05 am
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Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:04 am to Mr. Wayne
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But their best win is what, Stanford?
3 of those Stanford losses were on the road against teams in the top 10. The other was against a good USC team. Like I said, Stanford would be favored against all but 8 teams in the country on a neutral field. LINKThey are a very good team who've played an absolutely brutal schedule and lost all of their games where they were beatable.
But the point y'all can't comprehend is how hard it is to be 7-0(outside of FSU). If Notre Dame has a 90% chance of winning each game, its still a less than 50% chance of going 7-0. What's impressive isn't 1 of those individual wins. Its the implied odds that Notre Dame wins those games more than 9/10 times. That's why its so ridiculous when people try to diminish an undefeated team as "not that good" by trying to nitpick all of their wins. Its also why I say this board sucks at statistics.
This post was edited on 11/8/14 at 9:07 am
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:07 am to TheSexecutioner
It's fruitless..
MSB logic: if you have one loss you're automatically better than a team with two.
It's elementary comprehension. Sadly, if they were more aware, they'd realize LSU is getting screwed
MSB logic: if you have one loss you're automatically better than a team with two.
It's elementary comprehension. Sadly, if they were more aware, they'd realize LSU is getting screwed
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:09 am to sms151t
100% agree. Wouldn't surprise me if SEC has no 1 loss teams and 3-4 2 loss teams. I'm not arguing who is going to win. I'm talking about who deserves their ranking. Nothing FSU has done this year warrants that IMO. The only argument I see that could be considered valid, they haven't played as bad of teams as MS St, can be argued by saying that they haven't played as good of games either. Everything else is in MSU's favor.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:13 am to TheSexecutioner
who have they beaten? So we are giving points to teams for getting crushed by better teams now? No idea where you guys come up with this stuff.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:16 am to Mr. Wayne
Who has Michigan State beaten? Oh Nebraska. Okay, neat. Who have they beaten?
And on and on and on
And on and on and on
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:18 am to Mr. Wayne
Off topic in a way but relevant.
I think the only way you get into the playoff is to win your conference/CCG or be the best independent. This committee is not about finding the "best" team it's about finding a national champ. These rankings are just window dressing right now. Nowhere in the duties of the committee does it say find the "best". That term is so ambiguous judging teams.
I think they're only "seeding" teams not ranking.
I think the only way you get into the playoff is to win your conference/CCG or be the best independent. This committee is not about finding the "best" team it's about finding a national champ. These rankings are just window dressing right now. Nowhere in the duties of the committee does it say find the "best". That term is so ambiguous judging teams.
I think they're only "seeding" teams not ranking.
This post was edited on 11/8/14 at 9:20 am
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:20 am to rocket31
Going watch LSU vs Bama. As much as I hate you guys right now, arguing about this is stupid. I know I'm right, you know you're right. If both teams win out, MSU will be #1. FSU is a really good team who I think has underperformed. If they learn to put an entire game together, I wouldn't put money against them.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:20 am to Mr. Wayne
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:21 am to rocket31
Dont get me started on the Big 10. I won't make the game
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:24 am to TheSexecutioner
Last years team should have no bearing on the discussion in my opinion.
Using your logic of sample size, let's go back over the last 10 years. Let's open up that sample size as to decrease chance statistics boy. What conference has consistently dominated the others including National Champiomships? How much credit do you give MSU for rising to the top in the toughest division?
How many OOC teams have beaten a SEC West team this year?
Using your logic of sample size, let's go back over the last 10 years. Let's open up that sample size as to decrease chance statistics boy. What conference has consistently dominated the others including National Champiomships? How much credit do you give MSU for rising to the top in the toughest division?
How many OOC teams have beaten a SEC West team this year?
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:57 am to lsusaintsfan4life
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Using your logic of sample size, let's go back over the last 10 years.
No. Jameis was not on the team for the last 10 years. Neither was anyone. Obviously the sweet spot is a balance between a similar team and a big sample size. Using only this season is fine after a full season. In absence of a full season, I think its permissible to use the last season IF the team is similar and take it with a grain of salt.
Like I said, is it coincidence that the 1 undefeated team last year happens to be one of the 3 teams still undefeated this year? Probably not. Is it coincidence that a team with a decade full of 6-7 win seasons is still undefeated? More likely.
I give Mississippi State a ton of credit for upsetting a large portion of the SEC West. So much credit that I have them above every team without a 25 game win streak. But I do not believe they have risen to the top of the toughest division. I believe they are the 5th best team in the toughest division. And they are having an incredible run that Mississippi State fans should enjoy while it lasts
This post was edited on 11/8/14 at 10:00 am
Posted on 11/8/14 at 10:12 am to TheSexecutioner
Because they are a better team in every way and have played a tougher schedule, by far?
Posted on 11/8/14 at 10:24 am to TxTiger82
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Because they are a better team in every way and have played a tougher schedule, by far?
wrong on both accounts.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 10:54 am to TheSexecutioner
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are exactly 8 teams in the country who would be favored over Stanford on a neutral field. Mississippi State isn't one of them.
Wow you are just being stupid... frick OFF............
Posted on 11/8/14 at 1:18 pm to TheSexecutioner
the way Arkansas is playing now, they would beat Oklahoma State.
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