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re: Why does GA Tech not recruit better?

Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:41 pm to
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:41 pm to
Well for starters it's not like we don't have relatively recent proof that they can excel in athletics. O'leary and Cremins worked around the same academics. In football the coach's system is what holds them back from being consistently good(I mean 8-9 wins every year) in football, so that's solvable.
People keep saying academics but even Harvard massaged things so they could be successful in basketball. UNC's a great school so how did they solve their problem with keeping athletes eligible? They made a major so they wouldn't have to go to class. UNC wanted it bad enough, Tech doesn't.
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 8:42 pm
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:45 pm to
It's real sad that in basketball, that they managed to downgrade from Paul Hewitt.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:47 pm to
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It's real sad that in basketball, that they managed to downgrade from Paul Hewitt.


I thought for sure Gregory would win there
Posted by GAAtty70
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:58 pm to
The problem with anecdotal evidence is just that. Paul (61%) Johnson and O Leary (60%)have almost identical winning percentages at Tech....and as for UNC, and I had to go look this up,surprisingly Tech is 14-4 against UNC since 1998.

So what gives?
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 9:00 pm
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:07 pm to
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The problem with anecdotal evidence is just that. Paul (61%) Johnson and O Leary (60%)have almost identical winning percentages at Tech

O'leary had to build the program because when he took over they were one coming off 3 straights losing seasons and a 1-10 season. PJ took over a program with 11 straight winning seasons.

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and as for UNC, and I had to go look this up,surprisingly Tech is 14-4 against UNC since 1998.


UNC underachieves in football because they care about basketball.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:25 pm to
Well, they won their conference in 2009, and played in their championship game last year. I'd say they are having more success than UGA.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:27 pm to
I'm looking forward to seeing Kirby have problems with Paul Johnson's offense
Posted by Switzerland
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:38 pm to
reggie ball stayed eligible for 4 years. can't be that hard academically.

lack of alum/student support
lack of local support
lack of admin support
lack of hot girls on campus (but being in atl should fix that)
too many geeky dudes
weak conference surrounded by the sec
high schoolish stadium
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:55 pm to
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everybody at GT has to take calc, and it doesn't get easier after that. there isn't a "blow off" curriculum there
Psychology majors have to take Calc 1,2, and 3.
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:18 pm to
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Their academics were top notch in the 90's but they managed to compete in athletics.


In other words, they've cut back on their cheating. It will ruin a program every time.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71795 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:27 pm to
I know Kenny Anderson wasn't fricking with any calculus.
Posted by lwest41
Member since Aug 2009
376 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:03 pm to
Stanford has the best athletic program in the country and has equally rigorous curriculum.
Posted by auzach91
Marietta, GA
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/30/16 at 12:11 am to
bullshite. One of my friends was a 3 year starter on the OL from 10-12 and was dumber than a box of bricks.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/30/16 at 12:44 am to
The school doesn't commit enough to athletics. They're happy with being usually above average and occasionally beating UGA with Paul Johnson. His triple option isn't going to attract many big time athletes, and Paul Johnson doesn't seem to care too much for recruiting anyway.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
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Posted on 1/30/16 at 6:27 am to
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triple option
Posted by Grandioso
Driftwood, TX
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 1/30/16 at 6:33 am to
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Most underachieving athletic department in the country.



They aren't even the most underachieving athletic department in the state of Georgia.
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19690 posts
Posted on 1/30/16 at 8:20 am to
GT just isn't a powerhouse football program. The best we can really hope for is a really good season 1/2 of every 5 years. We are just never going to consistently compete with the big schools bc we aren't one. Sure we can have really good seasons here and there and most GT fans are pretty ok with that. Now 4-8 or whatever is terrible and heads will roll again if that happens.

Now basketball is a different story and it is 100% the coach. If nothing else, Hewitt proved that the right coach can attract top level talent year after year at GT. We just have a dud at coach right now that can't attract the ATL HS basketball players. Hewitt had metro ATL on lock.
This post was edited on 1/30/16 at 8:23 am
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 1/30/16 at 8:57 am to
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lack of hot girls on campus (but being in atl should fix that)
too many geeky dudes


Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 1/30/16 at 9:11 am to
So how do you explain Stanford's success?
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/30/16 at 9:37 am to
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So how do you explain Stanford's success?


Has Stanford been more successful in basketball/football than GT?

Stanford has had a good run in football the last few years but GT has been largely more successful as a whole.
This post was edited on 1/30/16 at 9:39 am
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