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re: Who will pay the players in CFB?
Posted on 9/20/13 at 6:57 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Posted on 9/20/13 at 6:57 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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Actually, the easiest way around this isn't to pay the players, but give them control of their likeness so they can profit off their name.
Poster above me got it
That runs counter to the arguments and usual whining you hear.
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 6:57 pm to acgeaux129
What do you think is a weakness if any?
This post was edited on 9/20/13 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 9/20/13 at 6:59 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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It would be. Because even though the massive endowment fund sounds good, the cash has to come from somewhere.
It's either going to be taxes or tuition. It won't come from where it should come from.
Like any other government program, we would end up paying for it.
Sorry I wasn't clear. It can come from the boosters and high net worth individuals that thing college sports are worth throwing money at. Plausible probably wasn't a good word for it, because this would be a huge amount of money.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 7:01 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
What you mean?
Posted on 9/20/13 at 7:02 pm to acgeaux129
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acgeaux129
You have good ideas. Problem is that idiots and scumbags run our country and this would end up being sucked into the same black hole of greed and corruption.
Ya I'm cynical.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 7:20 pm to Tigertown in ATL
You are.
Damn, not sure if this thread sank because I have a decent argument or because I'm a douche. Probably the latter.
Damn, not sure if this thread sank because I have a decent argument or because I'm a douche. Probably the latter.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:25 pm to acgeaux129
No matter what the NCAA decides to do, you will always have rogue boosters thinking their money is able to buy championships.
That's what becomes unfair. You implement some kind of system in the BCS conferences to give stipends and allow players to make money off their autographs.
Well, Attorney Dick Smith tells five star athletes that he'll purchase 50000 dollars worth of autographs if they sign with his favorite school.
That's what becomes unfair. You implement some kind of system in the BCS conferences to give stipends and allow players to make money off their autographs.
Well, Attorney Dick Smith tells five star athletes that he'll purchase 50000 dollars worth of autographs if they sign with his favorite school.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:32 pm to townhallsavoy
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Well, Attorney Dick Smith tells five star athletes that he'll purchase 50000 dollars worth of autographs if they sign with his favorite school.
Sure, but there's still only so many in a signing class and there are still only so many fans willing to buy recruits who might or might not pan out.
It definitely can't come from the schools--there would be Title IX issues even for the few that are making money off of football. But if they can take outside money, you don't have to worry about all the different enforcement and control issues. If Gambino's Bakery wants to give a player a no-show job for signing with Tulane, let them. If some hottie female athlete wants to get a modeling deal, more power to her. If some second-string punter can't get anyone to give him money, too bad.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:38 pm to townhallsavoy
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No matter what the NCAA decides to do, you will always have rogue boosters thinking their money is able to buy championships.
That's what becomes unfair. You implement some kind of system in the BCS conferences to give stipends and allow players to make money off their autographs.
Well, Attorney Dick Smith tells five star athletes that he'll purchase 50000 dollars worth of autographs if they sign with his favorite school.
Why go play for Auburn? They have a small media market that isn't even Top 50.
Come play for me at Rutgers. We are in the largest media market in the country. 20 times as many people will see your Subway endorsement on TV than those who would see it in Auburn, Alabama.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:39 pm to acgeaux129
Another idea for paying college athletes is following the Olympic model of amateurism. Well, sort of. This proposed idea allows colege athletes to control their own marketing rights. Things such as agents, commercials, even sponsorship’s. University of New Haven professor Allen Sack, who also played football at Notre Dame, says. “Anybody who can write a business plan is able to make money from big-time college sports-except the athletes themselves” when discussing the idea of the Olympic model. He goes on to say, “Unlike a system that offers stipends or pays athletes directly, this wouldn’t cost the NCAA or any of its member institutions a nickel. The financial burden would land with the shoe companies, multinational corporations and local car dealerships who want to enlist the athletes to help them push products.”
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:47 pm to acgeaux129
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Who will pay the players in CFB?
I think you mean in college. Because theres no fricking way schools are going to get away with only paying the football playing athletes.
Because then it will get into the fairness of paying Marcus because he plays a major sport but not paying Sarah who plays women's lacrosse. That's when you run into major lawsuits that get tied up in all kinds of high court.
Everybody who advocates paying players, talks about football and only football. When in reality if you institute an approved pay for play system, its going to have to be instituted for EVERY organized athletic team.
Football
Basketball
Baseball
Softball
Soccer (men's and womens)
Tennis
Golf
Lacrosse
If that happens, most schools can't afford it and will end up cutting athletic programs in order to pay the athletes in the most profitable sports. Which means athletes of smaller sports lose out on the opportunity to earn their scholarship.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:48 pm to ChemE in the OP
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want them to enlist athletes to help push their products
Really? Does anybody really think through these moronic propsals? Good lord, how long is it gonna
take for car dealership A to guarantee prospects certain
endorsement deals if they come to their schools?Or Phil
Night signing up half the top prospects to NIKE if they
go to Oregon?
This post was edited on 9/20/13 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:50 pm to ChemE in the OP
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Another idea for paying college athletes is following the Olympic model of amateurism. Well, sort of. This proposed idea allows colege athletes to control their own marketing rights. Things such as agents, commercials, even sponsorship’s. University of New Haven professor Allen Sack, who also played football at Notre Dame, says. “Anybody who can write a business plan is able to make money from big-time college sports-except the athletes themselves” when discussing the idea of the Olympic model. He goes on to say, “Unlike a system that offers stipends or pays athletes directly, this wouldn’t cost the NCAA or any of its member institutions a nickel. The financial burden would land with the shoe companies, multinational corporations and local car dealerships who want to enlist the athletes to help them push products.”
Come play for me at UCLA. We are the home of all the major production companies who can get your name and face out there. Plus the 2nd largest media market in the country makes sure people will see you. More eyeballs = More $$$. Don't go play for Tennessee. Knoxville? Middle of nowhere. Advertising revenue won't be as great there.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:03 pm to RD Dawg
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Really? Does anybody really think through these moronic propsals? Good lord, how long is it gonna take for car dealership A to guarantee prospects certain endorsement deals if they come to their schools.
And?
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:11 pm to acgeaux129
if you get paid to play, you are not an amateur athlete by definition. this is all bullshite
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:14 pm to Tiger Ryno
So then what should the NCAA do about situations like the Yahoo story?
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:15 pm to ChemE in the OP
And what? Do you not freakin understand the difference between the Olympic model and Phil Knight offering shoe deals to kids before they even step foot
on campus if they sign with Oregon? Really?
on campus if they sign with Oregon? Really?
This post was edited on 9/20/13 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:19 pm to ChemE in the OP
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And?
Collegiate athletic recruiting will become nothing more than a cattle auction bidding on a prized steer.
MLB style free-agency would ruin the sport.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:28 pm to acgeaux129
The same people that pay now, if you don't have those people now you won't have them in the future and your status will remain the same as it is now
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:28 pm to goldennugget
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Collegiate athletic recruiting will become nothing more than a cattle auction bidding on a prized steer.
You obviously haven't seen Cam Robinson's new ride yet. It's really nice. Heard he got a few bespoke suits too.
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