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re: Who will finish ranked higher all time - Steph or KD?

Posted on 6/14/17 at 3:37 pm to
Posted by RedHawk
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 6/14/17 at 3:37 pm to
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thats not trolling. steph can score and thats it. klay can play elite on ball D against 1-4 and score while doing it. you people are fricking insane. Klay probably wipes his nuts across stephs face 1 on 1 at practice


Basketball players aren't judged on their one on one abilities.
Posted by theducks
Where The Blazers Play
Member since Aug 2013
13722 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 3:38 pm to
Steph would dance around Klay like no tomorrow.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
8851 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 3:59 pm to
Also, while Klay is a good defender, he isn't that elite at it imo. Better than Steph, but not elite level.
Posted by spaceranger
Member since Jan 2017
1585 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:01 pm to
yeah thats why gambling venues are so successful; the majority of people are wrong most of the time.

steph may "dance around" him a couple possessions but more often than not klay would stop him. steph couldnt stop klay.

steph only averaged 3 more points a game this year, far outweighed by the number of points klay takes away playing defense. The ability to guard 1-4 is being vastly underrated by yall. then dude scored 37 points in a quarter.

if yall wanna be wrong thats cool, ill just be chillin with charles barkley smoking a cigar

Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:06 pm to
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I think MJ and KD are both better overall shooters than Curry
You think MJ was a better shooter than Curry?

Jesus Christ
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110944 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:13 pm to
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I think MJ and KD are both better overall shooters than
Then why is Steph statistically better despite obviously receiving more attention from defenses to stop his shooting?

MJ a better shooter than Steph... that nostalgia though!!!

Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35551 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:21 pm to
KD even before this season.

KD is an elite scorer in college and NBA history.

Steph is shooter.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Simcoe Strip - He/Him/Helicopter
Member since Oct 2011
36384 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:34 pm to
A 7ft guard that regularly goes for 50/40/90. He'll be a lot higher ranked then steph. And that's not taking anything away from Steph...KD is just a freak of nature.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Simcoe Strip - He/Him/Helicopter
Member since Oct 2011
36384 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:36 pm to
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He's like 6'9.


KD already admitted to being 7ft tall with shoes on.
Posted by ChiSaint
Silicon Valley, CA
Member since Feb 2008
366 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:45 pm to
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KD is an elite scorer in college and NBA history. Steph is shooter.


While KD is certainly better around the bucket, I don't know where why it is so often repeated that Steph is just a shooter (or is a one trick pony).

Did you watch Game 5? Curry went 2-9 from 3pt range and still scored 34 points with most of his points coming in the restricted area. That is not someone who is "just a shooter". Steve Kerr was just a shooter. Not Curry.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 5:00 pm to
KD
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 5:01 pm to
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He's like 6'9..


No. No he's not
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 5:10 pm to
6 10 1/2.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30395 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:11 pm to
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You think MJ was a better shooter than Curry?

Jesus Christ



I guess I'm overly influenced by statistics. Jordan's overall FG% and 2P% are better. Maybe that is because he was better at working inside to the basket? Perhaps 3 pt shots are the thing to look at, again, my own particular OCD seems to enslave me to statistics. Ultimately, the game has change

If you just compare their first 8 seasons, MJ is significantly better in overall FG% and 2Pt% but significantly worse in 3PT%.

And maybe nostalgia comes into play but I am not really an MJ fan, just acknowledge his greatness in this sport.

Ultimately, I think, a couple of things come into why I hesitate to consider Steph the greatest shooter of all time. He's just 8 seasons into a career and history indicates he will tail off in the very near future. Also, I think the greatest labels are difficult to establish across eras, particularly in basketball. A clear indication of the differences of styles of play is this 5.3% (725 of 13644) of MJ's total shots in 8 seasons were 3 pointers, 45.4% (4379 of 9645) of Steph's were 3 pointers.


In a few years I may very well look back at this and think "what the heck was I smokin"
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
6932 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:42 pm to
The answer is Durant.

Yes, Curry is likely to have the higher perceived peak-- however, his body size and type (and history) argue for a game that will age well, but not as well as being a rangy big.

You can't teach being tall. Barring a complete end of career break down in mobility, Durant is going to squeeze an extra bit out of his career that differentiates the two.
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