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re: Who has the best starting 5 in basketball?

Posted on 8/24/15 at 11:47 pm to
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 11:47 pm to
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That literally has nothing do with that. Most rankings listed by actual sportswriters will have Lawson around 15th.


Lawson will experience the great team affect. Irving's value shot up once he got to play with LeBron. Same thing will happen to Ty with Harden.

Raw numbers wise, Lawson is Top 10, but because he was playing with a shite team in Denver, the media forgot about him. Typical.
This post was edited on 8/24/15 at 11:48 pm
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 11:48 pm to
Posted by quail man
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 11:48 pm to
Kyrie was already considered a top 10 guard.

ETA. He's 15 in PER.

I'm done. This is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 8/24/15 at 11:50 pm
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 11:48 pm to
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Raw numbers wise, Lawson is Top 10

Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 11:51 pm to
Makes a thread so people will downplay the rockets just so he can talk about how good the rockets are

Nice
This post was edited on 8/24/15 at 11:52 pm
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 11:51 pm to
Spurs
Cavs
Rockets

Warriors have great depth though, so for overall rosters I would go Warriors, Spurs, Rockets, Cavs
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 11:52 pm to
quote:

Lawson will experience the great team affect.


Lawsome played for some pretty damn good teams under Karl. Hell they won 57 games his last year in Denver.

quote:

Irving's value shot up once he got to play with LeBron.


He has been an All-Star 3 of the 4 seasons he has been in the league.

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Raw numbers wise, Lawson is Top 10, but because he was playing with a shite team in Denver, the media forgot about him. Typical.


No you acting this retarded over a player now that he suddenly plays for the Rockets is typical. I'd love to go back and find some of the past discussions about Top 10 PG's on here before he became a Rocket to see where you had him ranked then.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 11:53 pm to
People acting like Houston doesn't belong on that list are delusional. Period.
Posted by LSU Piston
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 11:54 pm to
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I'd love to go back and find some of the past discussions about Top 10 PG's on here before he became a Rocket to see where you had him ranked then.




Me too

Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 11:55 pm to
Ok
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 11:55 pm to
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Lawsome played for some pretty damn good teams under Karl. Hell they won 57 games his last year in Denver.


Yeah. And at that point he was fringe Top 10 behind guys like Rondo. Dude is a better player now. He will be in everyone's Top 10 after this year. No doubt.
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 11:57 pm to
No doubt huh?
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 11:58 pm to
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Dude there is a massive drop off from Wall, Irving, Conley, and Lillard to someone like Ty Lawson


A large drop off from Conley to Lawson?? Lol no, not really. He's really good and for sure underrated, but there isn't a large drop off from Lawson to Mike Conley, of for your Memphis Grizzlies.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 12:00 am to
The playoffs are gonna be super hilarious next year when the Rockets are in the 4/5 seed series against another good team like LA or OKC. And probably lose.
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 12:00 am to
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Dude is a better player now.


Last season:
Lowest scoring season since his sophomore NBA season
2nd highest number of turnovers per game
Lowest number of steals since his sophomore season
Lowest eFG% of his career
Lowest 3pt % of his career

I for one am thoroughly shocked that you would pick literally the only stat he improved on to make your case for him being top 10
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 12:01 am to
Doesn't matter, Dwight will still be a champion
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 12:01 am to
But there is a huge drop off between Irving or Wall and Lawson, which was his original statement.
Posted by LSU Piston
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 12:01 am to
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but there isn't a large drop off from Lawson to Mike Conley



One of those two plays BOTH ends of the court at an elite level.

The other is Ty Lawson.
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 12:02 am to
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A large drop off from Conley to Lawson?? Lol no, not really. He's really good and for sure underrated, but there isn't a large drop off from Lawson to Mike Conley, of for your Memphis Grizzlies.


Picking him out of the guys I listed even when I listed him below where most services would have him listed

Sure is shiny
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 12:03 am to
Like I said, Lawson will be back in the conversation this year, and the Rockets will be spanking teams.
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