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re: When college football champions are finally determined through playoffs...
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:03 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:03 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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So what happens if you go to 8? Those teams at 9, 10 and 11 bitch and bitch and eventually they add more spots, which just adds more teams that feel like they got jobbed. It will never end. I'm all for going to 4 teams. What happened to Auburn in 2004 should never happen again. But after that I think it's a bad idea. Name the last time the #5 team had a legit claim to play for the NC.
yeah but their voices are much weaker and softer than 2004 auburn, 2011 Ok State, 2011 OU and the list goes on and on. if there were only 30 teams in football I could agree that 4 teams might be enough, but given that there are so many, the playoffs has to be representative of that and be more than 4. Personally I would be fine with 8 teams.
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Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:05 pm to Big L
frick it let's just do a round robin where everyone plays everyone else. They will just play 3 or 4 games a week.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:05 pm to Big L
Until they make it an 8 team playoff I don't think it will be the best it can be.
I also think this whole committee thing is a crock of shite. Why the hell not just use the BCS to determine your 8 like you had done with your top 2? I don't know how you can trust that
I also think this whole committee thing is a crock of shite. Why the hell not just use the BCS to determine your 8 like you had done with your top 2? I don't know how you can trust that
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:10 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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So what happens if you go to 8? Those teams at 9, 10 and 11 bitch and bitch and eventually they add more spots, which just adds more teams that feel like they got jobbed. It will never end.
I'm prefer 4 because I like regular seasons to matter more, but this is the ultimate strawman argument. Logistically they could never go to more than 16, so yes it would end. They have 68 teams in the basketball tourney and someone gripes, but no one remembers who those teams were. 2004 Auburn and 2003 USC are remember. We remember that teams like Boise and Utah have no shot because of preseason rankings.
Like i said, I prefer 4, but 8 would not be the end of the world and frankly I don't think it would go beyond that, especially if they wind up with 4 or 5 super conferences.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:17 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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exactly which makes it easy to argue against any of them.
They all have multiple loses
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Why does winning a CCG matter?
winning a conference matters, or at least should matter. You want to know what makes it easy to argue against any of them? Its simple did you win your conference? Yes, please step up. No, too bad.
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But they will bitch, because a team they think they are better than got in and they didn't.
so? Who has a better case a 2 loss team that finished 3rd in it's division or an undefeated team that's ranked lower because they started the season ranked lower. I mean, the only reason ND was ranked below Oregon and KSU was that they started ranked lower, how fricking stupid is that?
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Also you're leaving out another big factor, as playoff appearances become the barometer for a successful season, coaches will lobby to expand the field as they have in basketball.
This is unfortunate and a good reason to keep bowls, but again logistically they could not go above 16. And people see thru that anyway. Making the tourney is no longer a job saver, you have to win tourney games to keep your job.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:26 pm to Big L
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The NFL deals with it all the time and nobody complains. everybody understands that the regular season is just there to get you to the post season and to seed you in the post season. why wouldn't people's mindset change for CFB also?
People will deal with it. I just happen to think the current system is better. Look at the New York, wild card, football Giants. It's all about what you want to reward. Getting hot at the end of the year, or rewarding the whole body of work. You really think last year's national championship would have made MORE sense if 13-0 LSU had to play a 1 loss team in order to play another 1 loss team to win it all? Either of which could have been Bama?
Nobody is saying last year or 2004 were perfect. I'm saying there should have been tweaks instead of dumping the system. 4 teams is too underinclusive, 16 is way overinclusive, and 8 is a bigger can of worms than 2 or 4.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:40 pm to Big L
Yes, CFB is the slimiest sport on earth (I wouldn't even know where to begin on that topic). It's so laughable when people say the NFL is all business an that is why they prefer CFB. A playoff would go a long way in making it fun again.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:40 pm to gatorsimz
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I like the 4 team set up. DO NOT want an 8 team playoff
This year would suck with a 4 team playoff. Florida would not be more deserving than Georgia.
I'm in favor of playoffs, but there will still be problems.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:44 pm to noonan
Florida would go over UGA. Personally I think 4 team playoff should be :ND, Bama, KSU, Stanford.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:44 pm to noonan
So Florida is more deserving than UGA yet UGA beat them in an actual football game. This would basically defeat the purpose of a playoff.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:44 pm to noonan
the other thing that playoffs would do that people don't realize..is they make otherwise boring year-end games more meaningful. The LSU Arkansas game was only meaningful to LSU fans and Arky fans, but if LSU would have lost in an 8-team playoff world, then some of those teams "on the bubble" would be fired up and have something to root for. As it were, as soon as Georgia and Alabama won against Tech and Auburn, the rest of the games were meaningless, and that's unfortunate.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:45 pm to DelU249
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So Florida is more deserving than UGA yet UGA beat them in an actual football game
Florida has fewer loses and played a tougher schedule. Should A&M go over Bama?
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:46 pm to H-Town Tiger
UGA played an extra game against the #2 team in the nation.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:47 pm to DelU249
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So Florida is more deserving than UGA yet UGA beat them in an actual football game. This would basically defeat the purpose of a playoff.
Reread what I said.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:48 pm to Big L
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the other thing that playoffs would do that people don't realize..is they make otherwise boring year-end games more meaningful.
Absolutely agree with this.
Rather than 3 or 4 teams fighting for a shot, there would be 8 or more teams fighting for a shot at the playoffs.
This post was edited on 12/1/12 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:52 pm to DelU249
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UGA played an extra game against the #2 team in the nation
that brings their total of games vs top 12 teams to 3. Florida played 5.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:54 pm to H-Town Tiger
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that brings their total of games vs top 12 teams to 3. Florida played 5.
this is why megaconferences are stupid. all conferences should be required to play round robin style to determine a winner.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:55 pm to H-Town Tiger
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that brings their total of games vs top 12 teams to 3. Florida played 5.
Georgia beat florida head to head at a neutral site. For that they earned an extra game that now makes Florida the better team?
Posted on 12/1/12 at 11:00 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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8 teams would be bad
WRONG.
People that know football actually did this a week ago. They had a real selection committee do the process and their was a big article about it.
You want to know what the people who actually know football had to say at the end of the selection process?
That 8 teams would be the way to go and it will def go to 8 games. Go look it up, I think it was SI that did the story. I will trust people that know football over anyone on the internet. Sorry.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 11:01 pm to noonan
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Georgia beat florida head to head at a neutral site. For that they earned an extra game that now makes Florida the better team?
No, Florida was the better team all along. If not, why isn't USCe better than UGA?
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