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re: What is your top 10 QB list?
Posted on 4/26/12 at 8:04 pm to DrVinnyBoombatz
Posted on 4/26/12 at 8:04 pm to DrVinnyBoombatz
post the playoff stats
why you mad bro?
who is a better playoff qb, Eli or Peyton? big Ben or Peyton?
why you mad bro?
who is a better playoff qb, Eli or Peyton? big Ben or Peyton?
This post was edited on 4/26/12 at 8:10 pm
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Posted on 4/26/12 at 8:07 pm to DrVinnyBoombatz
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BRADY HAS FADED? If 66% with 5200 yards and 39 tds with 12 interceptions for a Qb rating of 105.6 is faded then what the hell is amazing?
And last year he had his 2nd highest Qb rating ever at 111. If anything Brady is getting stronger, not fading.
OK. Calm DOWN. IF you can't see that he is more fragile in the pocket and does NOT have the same kind of team he has had in the past. Thats YOU.
Posted on 4/26/12 at 8:08 pm to TigerBait1127
Well if you want to talk about the team's offense, then the Saints would be better than the patriots.
But lets talk about the individual qb.
Which team has the better players around him. The Saints were already #1 in terms of offensive players around Brees, but once Graham hit his stride it made things not even close.
Now obviously, I do not have the playoff stats of two qb's I could give two shits about on hand. But if I remember correctly, not to long ago Drew Brees threw 22 ints, and in the last two playoffs hasn't taken his team to the superbowl, unlike Brady.
In fact, one stat that pops out to me is Drew Brees has never won a road playoff game.
So if you want to talk about playoffs, like talk about the stats that matter. Wins.
But lets talk about the individual qb.
Which team has the better players around him. The Saints were already #1 in terms of offensive players around Brees, but once Graham hit his stride it made things not even close.
Now obviously, I do not have the playoff stats of two qb's I could give two shits about on hand. But if I remember correctly, not to long ago Drew Brees threw 22 ints, and in the last two playoffs hasn't taken his team to the superbowl, unlike Brady.
In fact, one stat that pops out to me is Drew Brees has never won a road playoff game.
So if you want to talk about playoffs, like talk about the stats that matter. Wins.
Posted on 4/26/12 at 8:10 pm to TigerBait1127
I know Brees has better playoff stats then Brady. You can look them up yourself.
Brady has also played in over twice as many playoff games then Brees. You can also see that every time Brees made it to the 2nd round his numbers have been worse, along with Bradys. The defenses get better as the playoffs go on, what is more impressive is the fact that he can get his team there. Playoff W/L's mean more for a Qb then regular season W/L's. That is why Romo can't be a top 5 Qb, even though his numbers are great. Same with Phillip Rivers.
Brady has also played in over twice as many playoff games then Brees. You can also see that every time Brees made it to the 2nd round his numbers have been worse, along with Bradys. The defenses get better as the playoffs go on, what is more impressive is the fact that he can get his team there. Playoff W/L's mean more for a Qb then regular season W/L's. That is why Romo can't be a top 5 Qb, even though his numbers are great. Same with Phillip Rivers.
Posted on 4/26/12 at 8:11 pm to Indfanfromcol
the last 2 road playoff games brees was incredible. our defense blew it both times, last year after an incredible comeback
Posted on 4/26/12 at 8:13 pm to TigerBait1127
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our defense blew it
Excuses.
The only reason the colts every won any game was because of Manning. He was their Defense because he kept on to the ball and didn't give his Defense a chance to get on the field.
Drew Brees shouldn't of had a problem outscoring his opponent either time. He has more weapons than any other qb.
ETA: And I hate Brady. My so brought a pair of binoculars just to watch him when they came to New Orleans last time. I am just giving my unbiased opinion.
This post was edited on 4/26/12 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 4/26/12 at 8:13 pm to dukke v
In no way am I mad, just more dumbfounded in how you can say Brady is fading. Its the complete opposite. And he's only been injured once in his career, on a blown out ACL. Wouldn't say he is 'fragile' either. And thats his fault he doesn't have a better team? He has a worse team and he is still able to get his team to the Super Bowl.
Posted on 4/26/12 at 8:15 pm to DrVinnyBoombatz
so Brady is better because the ravens dropped the ball intl the endzone and shanked the field goal. it was brees fault we gave the ball to Alex smith and blitzed the shite out of him?
dilfer> marino, eli> Peyton, big ben> Peyton?
dilfer> marino, eli> Peyton, big ben> Peyton?
Posted on 4/26/12 at 8:15 pm to DrVinnyBoombatz
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You can also see that every time Brees made it to the 2nd round his numbers have been worse, along with Bradys
OK. See WHAT you just posted.
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The defenses get better as the playoffs go on, what is more impressive is the fact that he can get his team there.
When NE WON sb's they had some of the BEST D'S in the NFL. AND they NEVER WON a SB by more than 3 points.
Posted on 4/26/12 at 8:17 pm to TigerBait1127
Hmmm, how much time did Brees leave on the clock when they scored that touchdown. Instead of controlling the clock, knowing your D has stopped shite the last 5 minutes, you score as quick as possible.
Yeah, I know they were in a hurry to score, but everyone knew 49ers weren't going to stop Brees from scoring.
Just more excuses
Yeah, I know they were in a hurry to score, but everyone knew 49ers weren't going to stop Brees from scoring.
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s better because the ravens dropped the ball intl the endzone and shanked the field goal
Just more excuses
Posted on 4/26/12 at 8:18 pm to Indfanfromcol
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our defense blew it
Excuses.
The only reason the colts every won any game was because of Manning. He was their Defense because he kept on to the ball and didn't give his Defense a chance to get on the field.
Drew Brees shouldn't of had a problem outscoring his opponent either time. He has more weapons than any other qb.
ETA: And I hate Brady. My so brought a pair of binoculars just to watch him when they came to New Orleans last time. I am just giving my unbiased opinion.
Did you even watch the Saints' last two playoff losses? In all of the Seattle game, and the 2nd half of the 49ers game, Drew and the offense did EVERYTHING possible to win. Is it Drew's fault that Alex Smith shredded the defense on a 30 yard TD run? Is it Drew's fault that our defense let Alex fricking Smith run a 1:20 drill on us to win the game? Drew put us on top with clutch plays repeatedly. Our Defense blew it. Your 'logic' is ridiculous
Posted on 4/26/12 at 8:19 pm to Indfanfromcol
manning played like shite in the playoffs the yesterday they won won. their daily came to play
Posted on 4/26/12 at 8:20 pm to Indfanfromcol
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Hmmm, how much time did Brees leave on the clock when they scored that touchdown. Instead of controlling the clock, knowing your D has stopped shite the last 5 minutes, you score as quick as possible.
Yeah, I know they were in a hurry to score, but everyone knew 49ers weren't going to stop Brees from scoring.
You're a fricking dumbass
might I add that your armchair quarterbacking - 'They should have controlled the clock better' 'Drew has more weapons and that should make up for a D that allows Alex Smith to dominate them' - reeks of someone with absolutely NO football experience or knowledge
This post was edited on 4/26/12 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 4/26/12 at 8:20 pm to REG861
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Your 'logic' is ridiculous
Again, it's called clock management. And yes, I watched both of them. Why wouldn't Brees run the clock down, giving the other team less time to move the ball. Its not like in that last 5 minutes your D was stopping a damn thing.
Their is just no way to justify putting Brees over Brady, when Brady win's more playoff games, and on the road too.
Posted on 4/26/12 at 8:21 pm to REG861
now it's Drews fault the 49ers can't tackle
flacco outplayed Brady btw.
flacco outplayed Brady btw.
Posted on 4/26/12 at 8:22 pm to TigerBait1127
If you really want to say that Brees is the better playoff Qb go for it. Brady will just smile with his 3 rings and 2 Super Bowl MVP's.
And what is the major knock on Marino? He never won in the playoffs. Best Qb of all time otherwise, just couldn't win in the playoffs. And I've heard the team argument, but Marino also had the best team in the NFL twice, the 1983 and 1984 season, with him having an outstanding '84 year.
And what is the major knock on Marino? He never won in the playoffs. Best Qb of all time otherwise, just couldn't win in the playoffs. And I've heard the team argument, but Marino also had the best team in the NFL twice, the 1983 and 1984 season, with him having an outstanding '84 year.
Posted on 4/26/12 at 8:24 pm to TigerBait1127
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now it's Drews fault the 49ers can't tackle
Oh you know, Drew should have taken a knee for a few plays, and just assumed that we would score from 65 yards away, nevermind that we had about 2 minutes to play..Also Drew should have known J Graham would break free and run for a long arse touchdown. We should have thrown a 5 yard dart to run time off.. How dare we take advantage of a big play
Posted on 4/26/12 at 8:25 pm to TigerBait1127
I thought we were talking about Brady and Brees in the playoffs, not manning in the playoffs.
When it comes down to it, I want a qb that has proven he is a winner, home or the road.
I get it, Brees is great. He will go HOF most likely on the first ballot. But Brady is just a little better.
When it comes down to it, I want a qb that has proven he is a winner, home or the road.
I get it, Brees is great. He will go HOF most likely on the first ballot. But Brady is just a little better.
Posted on 4/26/12 at 8:25 pm to DrVinnyBoombatz
you obviously didn't watch the game or don't know shite about football if you think brees showed poor clock management in that game. any coach would take the points anyway
Posted on 4/26/12 at 8:25 pm to REG861
Thats the reason I posted playoff comeback wins and game winning drives. Brady has been ridiculously clutch in the playoffs. So has Brees but not nearly as many times as Brady.
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