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re: What is it going to take for football to become run first again?
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:56 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:56 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:I just don't think he can do it!!!!
Total touches the past 2 seasons: Gurley = 571 Freeman = 619
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Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:56 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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You really think any running back on either of those rosters could go to another team and be a feature back with no real back up? They excel where they are but I don't think they could.
Apparently you don't watch much football
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:56 pm to Jcorye1
quote:Thread winner!!!
A time machine.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:56 pm to MontyFranklyn
Or how about this:
Sudden death; the team who last possessed the ball kicks off in OT automatically. So basically if it's tied with 8 ticks left and you're at your own 20, you wanna forfeit your possession by punting, but you gotta hope all 8 ticks run off or else they'll punt back and you have to kickoff in OT.
Sudden death; the team who last possessed the ball kicks off in OT automatically. So basically if it's tied with 8 ticks left and you're at your own 20, you wanna forfeit your possession by punting, but you gotta hope all 8 ticks run off or else they'll punt back and you have to kickoff in OT.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:57 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Gurley sucked this year.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:58 pm to ballscaster
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Or how about this: Sudden death; the team who last possessed the ball kicks off in OT automatically. So basically if it's tied with 8 ticks left and you're at your own 20, you wanna forfeit your possession by punting, but you gotta hope all 8 ticks run off or else they'll punt back and you have to kickoff in OT.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:59 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Yeah, that was REALLY bad play calling. I guess when you have Matt Ryan and Julio, you forget about common sense. Run the ball 3 straight times there and kick the winning FG. Falcons have to be so sick right now.
It would have been a 53yrd attempt if they had not gained a single yard. 53yrds is definitely not a gimmie.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:01 pm to shel311
Horse shite. It's a fricking brilliant idea. 
Seriously, talk to me. What's the problem with this? It solves the problem of the coin completely.
Seriously, talk to me. What's the problem with this? It solves the problem of the coin completely.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:05 pm to 504Voodoo
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It would have been a 53yrd attempt if they had not gained a single yard. 53yrds is definitely not a gimmie.
True. But for completeness, Matt Bryant was 75% from over 50 this year 6/8 and 62% career. Odds are they gained a few yards as well. He's 78% career from 40+ and 100% this year.
I didn't have an issue with a pass being in there, but if IIRC the pass play attempted was like a 7 step drop. Basically the only play that would guarantee moving them out of FG range that wasn't a turnover. I think something a little quicker would have been perfectly justifiable.
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:05 pm to MontyFranklyn
The team in question here is sneakily actually a pretty bad power run team despite having two pretty talented backs. They were a good run team, but it was out of zone run packages and not the power run.
In the case of the game, after the Julio catch all that needed to happen was three straight runs with how good Bryant is as a kicker, but the team simply isn't good enough to line up and go straight at them with power run.
In the case of the game, after the Julio catch all that needed to happen was three straight runs with how good Bryant is as a kicker, but the team simply isn't good enough to line up and go straight at them with power run.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:09 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Two Super Bowls were lost due to OCs loving the pass way too much.
how about the Pats throwing the ball in overtime with first and goal at the one. a FADE to a TE. WTF? I was like, didnt they learn watching Seatle lose to them?
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:11 pm to L5UT1ger
quote:I remember learning that year that 1 of 197 passes thrown from the opponents' 1 was intercepted.
I was like, didnt they learn watching Seatle lose to them?
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:14 pm to ballscaster
quote:
I remember learning that year that 1 of 197 passes thrown from the opponents' 1 was intercepted.
I learned that running it worked this year while throwing it didnt work last year or on first down this year.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:31 pm to 504Voodoo
quote:It was 1st and 10 from the 22, woulda been a 39 yarder if no yards were gained.
It would have been a 53yrd attempt if they had not gained a single yard. 53yrds is definitely not a gimmie.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:32 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
quote:So he hadn't missed from inside 40 this season and barring a penalty, they're basically kicking from at least within 40 yards?
He's 78% career from 40+ and 100% this year.
Ouch!!!
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:35 pm to L5UT1ger
quote:And before last season's play, you had learned that 196 straight pass attempts from the 1 were not intercepted, so if you go off of what you learned BEFORE they play and not Captain Hindsight, you would have been ok with the pass.
I learned that running it worked this year while throwing it didnt work last year or on first down this year.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:39 pm to SECFan1995
quote:It doesn't matter if they were a power run team or not. With under 10 minutes to go and being up by 16 you start playing the clock. As the clock tics down the percentage chance of NE wins decreases, eventually becoming exponential. The Falcons created opportunities for NE by not running the ball. Being a pass happy offense cost them the game when they didn't even need to pass. They just needed to burn off 4 minutes per possession and the game would have been essentially over, especially if they had been able to kick the field goal. It's about odds, outcomes and scenario percentages.
The team in question here is sneakily actually a pretty bad power run team despite having two pretty talented backs. They were a good run team, but it was out of zone run packages and not the power run.
In the case of the game, after the Julio catch all that needed to happen was three straight runs with how good Bryant is as a kicker, but the team simply isn't good enough to line up and go straight at them with power run.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:40 pm to shel311
quote:True, but what is the safest play to run on the goal line factoring outcomes?
so if you go off of what you learned BEFORE they play and not Captain Hindsight, you would have been ok with the pass.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:42 pm to MontyFranklyn
quote:If you mean safest as in least likely to result in a turnover, the numbers were posted after the Russell Wilson INT and the data said it was safer to pass.
True, but what is the safest play to run on the goal line factoring outcomes?
Now, I'll certainly concede the type of pass they through, that was the real takeaway to me, but I had no issues with simply passing the ball.
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:45 pm to shel311
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It was 1st and 10 from the 22, woulda been a 39 yarder if no yards were gained.
This. Not sure what people are talking about.
And going for it on 4th and 30 from near midfield w/ an 8 point lead is about the dumbest idea I have ever heard. If Atlanta goes for that, NE wins in regulation.
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