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re: Westbrook Scored tMost Points in a Triple Double in NBA History

Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:15 am to
Posted by litenin
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
2359 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:15 am to
Agreed that there won't be a tie. While I'm a Rockets fan and think that both guys are deserving, I give the slight edge to Westbrook. Averaging a triple double while also having significantly more PPG (2.5), rebounds (2.6), and only behind in Assists by 1.0 while playing about two minutes less per game on a much less talented team.

Also, OKC has gone 8-2 in their last 10 and now has a respectable enough record to support an MVP.
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
88863 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:17 am to
I need to see Westbrook win the MVP so fricking bad. I may take a day off of school just to read the shitpost
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59706 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:21 am to
Oh Westbrook will be the first guy I congratulate after James. Great great season. But harden is having the best offensive season maybe ever. And his team is leaps and bounds better. Even if you say harden has more talent it's not a big enough disparity to make up for Houston being on a different planet as a team than OKC.
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
88863 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:28 am to
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There won't be a tie.

There definitely could be. If 100 voters tie are split even on first place votes

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The NBA picks a panel of more than 100 media members who are each allowed to put five players on their MVP ballot. Each player on the ballot must be ranked first to fifth. Depending on the place, that player receives points on a 10-7-5-3-1 scale, with first place worth 10 points, second place worth seven, and so on.
Posted by suavecito80
Member since Apr 2014
2872 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:29 am to
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I need to see Westbrook win the MVP so fricking bad. I may take a day off of school just to read the shitpost




It would be amazing.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59706 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:32 am to
I'm not a professional statistician but the odds gotta be worse than 1 in 10,000. Maybe someone can assist.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:31 am to
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I'm not a professional statistician but the odds gotta be worse than 1 in 10,000. Maybe someone can assist.
It's essentially impossible to truly quantify those odds since there are so many potential scenarios, and even it you just focused on the likely scenarios, it would require assumptions based on a limited sample of previous voting patterns, that are not equally applicable from year to year.

So we can maybe narrow it down to 10 potential candidates to get a vote, estimate the likelihood that each one would get a vote each one of the 5 places, and then do a bunch of simulations (say 100,000) and see how many times it results in a tie.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 11:33 am
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59706 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:36 am to
Yep. The number of possible ballots is endless. Even if you say only 10 players will receive any votes and 6 of those player will receive only 5th place votes the chances of it ending up tied with over 100 pollsters is minuscule.


This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 11:38 am
Posted by Split2874
Mandeville
Member since Jul 2012
2467 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:07 pm to
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Yep. The number of possible ballots is endless. Even if you say only 10 players will receive any votes and 6 of those player will receive only 5th place votes the chances of it ending up tied with over 100 pollsters is minuscule.


The NBA is having all kinds of record broken this year, why not have the first tie vote for MVP.

Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
13540 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:25 pm to
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not as bad as i thought may have mixed you up with some of the other opinions tbh



Yeah there was a lot of hating (especially from my fellow pels talk posters) on the EG and Ryno signing. And yes, it was quite obvious that they were perfect for Mike's system.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59706 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:31 pm to
Yea but tbt it's not fair to others to assume they have the same hoops acumen that you and I do.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65082 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:34 pm to
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But harden is having the best offensive season maybe ever.

Michael Jordan 1987-1988
35 ppg, 53.5 fg%, 5.5 rpg, 5.9 apg, 3.2 spg, MVP, NBA 1st Team, NBA1st team all-defense

Jordan basically from the 1987-1988 season through the 1992-1993 season trumps anything Harden has done this year.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57437 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 3:27 pm to
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why not have the first tie vote for MVP.


Because Westbrook >>> Harden
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