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re: Week 2 NFL Betting Thread

Posted on 9/13/12 at 8:27 am to
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 9/13/12 at 8:27 am to
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I am leaning towards the O49?


It opened at 49. It's now at 51.5.
Posted by aVatiger
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Posted on 9/13/12 at 8:40 am to
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51.5.


i would love for it to jump up to 53, probably not gonna happen.. but i'll take the under at 52.5. Thursday night games are typically low scoring and the bears never fair well in lambeau. Almost all my books have it at 5.5, i hope it gets down to -5 and then i'll grab a point to get it to -4

Posted by brgfather129
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Posted on 9/13/12 at 8:46 am to
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What's the consensus on the Lions' defense?


We are weak in the secondary due to injury...Delmas/Houston/Bentley may miss the game, although Houston is practicing now.

Suh looks great... LINK

They held Steven Jackson in check, but Gore was the difference last year and ripped them apart. I think the DL will negate some of the losses in the secondary with their pass rush, but the key will be limiting their run game.

I also believe their defensive scheme is better this season. There was one play in particular...an end-around which would have been a big play last year against the wide-9. KVB kept contain and it didn't go anywhere. As a unit, this team is playing much better defensively.

Posted by ChemE in the OP
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Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:08 am to
Adding Bears +5.5!

Good luck!

Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:12 am to
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Almost all my books have it at 5.5, i hope it gets down to -5


I grabbed it at -5.

I do have a some spreadsheet a guy on covers was touting and he has the Bears +6.

I'll email it to the mailing list.

He basically ranks positions for every team in a 0.0-5.0 scale: QB, RB1, RB2, WR1, WR2, TE, K, OL, ST, DL, LB, DB1, DB2, Pass Rush, DEF Score Rating, & Takeaways. Sums up these numbers and looks at the HTH matchups with these final numbers. When a team has a 3:1 ratio with their opponent, it's a huge play. When the difference is much greater than the current spread, it's a play.
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:19 am to
How would an individual go about getting on this "list"?
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:23 am to
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How would an individual go about getting on this "list"?


Post your email and avatiger will add it.
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:37 am to
dcrewstd@gmail.com

Please add me to the mailing list.
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:56 am to
I will try a Thursday Night Teaser for the second week in a row(although last week was Wednesday). Teasing the Pack to a pickem and the over down to 46. I have done well with these teasers on Mondays and Thursdays for some reason. Hopefully I can keep it up.
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 9/13/12 at 10:11 am to
Bears down to (+4.5) now. Was kind of hoping to see a ton of money drive that line from 5 to 6.


Seattle line is up 1/2 point to (+3.5) as is St Louis (+3.5)
This post was edited on 9/13/12 at 10:27 am
Posted by aVatiger
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Posted on 9/13/12 at 10:55 am to
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Was kind of hoping to see a ton of money drive that line from 5 to 6.


why?

i would much rather it go to -4 so i can buy it to -3 than have to make a play on the bears at +6
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 9/13/12 at 11:04 am to
I think the Bears have a better chance of winning it outright moreso than the Packers covering 3 points. So I'll take the (+6).

Granted I'm new to all this, so feel free to explain where I'm going wrong.
This post was edited on 9/13/12 at 11:04 am
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 9/13/12 at 11:12 am to
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I think the Bears have a better chance of winning it outright moreso than the Packers covering 3 points.


The Pack ran into a physical buzz-saw last week vs the SF.

No way they lose 2 in a row in Lambeau.

The Bears played basically the worst defense in the NFL with a QB playing his first NFL start vs a good, but aging Chicago D.

People are putting too much stock into the Bears offensive output vs a bad defense, and the Pack getting handled by a physical SF D.

Chicago is still more of a finesse offense; adding a big RB in Michael Bush does not change that overall fact.
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 9/13/12 at 12:59 pm to
6 Point Teaser:

Bears (+10.5)
Should I take the over (44.5) or the under (57.5) for the GB/Chi game? I'm thinking the over as a 24-21 seems likely.
This post was edited on 9/13/12 at 1:03 pm
Posted by ChemE in the OP
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Posted on 9/13/12 at 1:04 pm to
That's one way to look at it.
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 9/13/12 at 1:08 pm to
While I do agree Frisco was a monster all it's own, Packers defense is extremely suspect, they have no running game, Jennings is out.....I understand it's at Lambeau, but that's a lot to overcome against a team with legit weapons offensively now, and a defense that is slightly above average.

Packers have the edge at QB, but that's about it. Without Jennings, I like chicago's receivers, backs and defense better than Green Bay's.

If the packers do win, I can't seem them blowing anyone out.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 9/13/12 at 1:13 pm to
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Saints defense looked like the absolute worst in the NFL.

I'm not keen on St Louis generally, but they went on the ROAD to detroit and picked Stafford 3 times and kept the score low, which doesn't seem easy considering the potency of that offense.

They will get a rookie QB, at home, taking his 2nd road trip in 2 weeks. I'm gonna wait to see the line movement on this one, but I have a feeling the money will be pouring in on the Redskins.


I'm not touching it either. I think RG3 is beyond the real deal but there were a couple of red flags from that game.

-All of the big gains were on broken plays/him keeping the play alive until something broke down.

-The Saints front actually handled the running game pretty well for most of the day.

-There is now some tape on him.

I'd take a bit of a wait and see approach with the skins.
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 9/13/12 at 1:59 pm to
Lot of games this weekend in the 3 point range:

Saints/Panthers
Dallas/Seattle
Rams/Redskins
Raiders/Dolphins


You looking at any of those other ones?
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 9/13/12 at 2:00 pm to
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Jennings is out.....


James Jones, Randall Cobb and Donald Driver are still there along with Jordy Nelson, Jermichael Finley and a better QB.

We won't know the full impact of Cedric Benson until tonight. They were playing the best defense in the NFL last week and they were playing from behind most of the game.
This post was edited on 9/13/12 at 2:02 pm
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 9/13/12 at 2:01 pm to
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Saints/Panthers
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