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re: UPDATE: still no comprehensive data suggesting tOSU shouldn't be in
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:14 pm to RTR America
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:14 pm to RTR America
quote:The media would love OSU in because of tv ratings. The media would love half of us to think that that's bullshite because of tv ratings.
What media machine wants OSU out? Seems to be the complete opposite.
Controversy. They cooked it up nicely. Just look at this board.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:16 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:A lot of teams lost to Penn State. Why aren't they in?
You don't understand, it LITERALLY makes their loss to Penn State a better outcome than them winning. You put OSU in and losing to Penn State becomes the best thing that happened to them all year.
quote:No. This isn't about "messages." If you have comprehensive data to show us that Ohio State isn't one of the top four, I'd love to see it. If all you have is "messages," then you have nothing.
Think about the message that sends.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:16 pm to ballscaster
quote:
The media would love OSU in because of tv ratings. The media would love half of us to think that that's bullshite because of tv ratings.
Controversy. They cooked it up nicely. Just look at this board.
Again who is pushing for this narrative? All I've seen on Sportscenter tonight is how Ohio State is in.
eta: ESPN is pushing for Washington to be out more than anything
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:19 pm to RTR America
quote:The countless point/counterpoint shows and any show that depends on controversy to get ratings. Just because it isn't coming out of a SportsCenter anchor's mouth right now doesn't mean that it isn't out there.
Again who is pushing for this narrative? All I've seen on Sportscenter tonight is how Ohio State is in.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:19 pm to ballscaster
quote:
A lot of teams lost to Penn State. Why aren't they in?
Stop playing dumb
If you put OSU in and leave PSU out, you are saying that it was better for OSU to lose to PSU than to beat them. Beating Penn State would have made their oath to the playoff harder.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:19 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:No comprehensive data here. You have nothing.
If you put OSU in and leave PSU out, you are saying that it was better for OSU to lose to PSU than to beat them. Beating Penn State would have made their oath to the playoff harder.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:19 pm to castorinho
quote:
The media wants Ohio state in, not sure wtf you're talking abou
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:20 pm to ballscaster
quote:
Their conference record has informed sports fans thinking OSU shouldn't be in
FIFY
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:23 pm to Masterag
quote:...is 75% of what matters. You'll address that other 25%, too, or you'll not have a point worth considering.
Their conference record
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:23 pm to ballscaster
quote:
No comprehensive data here
Beat Penn State, OSU has to win an extra game against a very good team that almost beat them earlier in the year.
Lose to Penn State, you still get in but have to play one less game and get extra rest.
Objectively, putting them in says losing a game was better than winning it.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:25 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:You've cited two games. That isn't
Beat Penn State, OSU has to win an extra game against a very good team that almost beat them earlier in the year.
Lose to Penn State, you still get in but have to play one less game and get extra rest.
Objectively, putting them in says losing a game was better than winning it.
quote:Unless you can stack one team's complete schedule up against the other's, you haven't sat down at the table, much less brought anything to it.
comprehensive data
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:25 pm to ballscaster
quote:
The people who are arguing that OSU shouldn't be in are people who seem never to cite any comprehensive data
you want comprehensive data:
Penn State: Big 10 Conference Champs
Ohio State: lol
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:25 pm to Masterag
Still no comprehensive data.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:27 pm to ballscaster
quote:
...is 75% of what matters. You'll address that other 25%, too, or you'll not have a point worth considering.
Head to head Winners + Conference Championship > whatever you come up with
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:27 pm to ballscaster
....except when tOSU actually played, they lost.....
There is no better indicator of who is better than actually competing against one another....
There is no better indicator of who is better than actually competing against one another....
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:28 pm to Masterag
quote:
Head to head Winners + Conference Championship > whatever you come up with
Yup. He won't agree with you because he has zero common sense, but you're absolutely right.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:29 pm to Masterag
Penn State: Rose Bowl
Ohio State: Fiesta Bowl
Ohio State: Fiesta Bowl
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:29 pm to ballscaster
quote:They didn´t win their conference, let alone their division.
Nobody on this board can come up with comprehensive data to support the idea that they shouldn't be in the playoff.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:29 pm to ballscaster
quote:
Unless you can stack one team's complete schedule up against the other's
You're hiding behind numbers because, deep down, you know how absurd it is to effectively argue losing to Penn State was better for Ohio State than beating them.
It's a fact that cannot be refuted if you place OSU in the playoff.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:29 pm to Masterag
Those are tiebreakers.
There's no tie.
There's no tie.
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