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Uh Oh - Casey Martin feels discriminated against over cart use (AGAIN)
Posted on 6/26/13 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 6/26/13 at 5:38 pm
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In an instance of history repeating itself, Casey Martin finds himself at odds with a major golf organization over the use of a golf cart.
Martin, the men’s coach at Oregon who was born with a debilitating condition in his right leg that makes walking difficult, was denied the use of a cart Monday while recruiting at a U.S. Junior Amateur qualifier in Oceanside, Calif.
Martin, 41, who has blood-circulation difficulties because of Klippel-Trenaunay-Weber syndrome, won a 2001 Supreme Court decision against the PGA Tour that allowed his use of a cart during tournaments because of his disability.
Now, his dispute lies with the U.S. Golf Association.
Before Martin arrived at El Camino Golf Club for Monday’s qualifier, he said he emailed tournament chairman Matt Pawlak to secure the use of a cart, which was granted. On the sixth hole, Martin was in the cart when he was approached by Pawlak and told that USGA rules prohibited spectators from using golf carts. Martin relinquished the cart.
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Posted on 6/26/13 at 5:43 pm to Shankopotomus
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USGA rules prohibited spectators from using golf carts.
I can understand players, but this seems to be going a bit far.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 5:45 pm to Shankopotomus
He can't fricking walk. What do you want him to do? He won a case with the Supreme Court. He is, in fact, being discriminated against.
This post was edited on 6/26/13 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 6/26/13 at 5:48 pm to Shankopotomus
If he gets one all should. He gets to watch every kid play holes while other coaches are limited.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 5:48 pm to BigBoyTiger
Oh don't misunderstand - I am not taking sides here. The "Uh Oh" was in reference to a "here we go again" type of moment
He took on the PGA, is he now prepared to do the same with the USGA?
He took on the PGA, is he now prepared to do the same with the USGA?
Posted on 6/26/13 at 5:49 pm to Shankopotomus
The USGA is so fricking stupid with this shite. Just let him use the dammed cart.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 5:50 pm to Shankopotomus
2 totally different cases.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 5:52 pm to VegasPro
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If he gets one all should. He gets to watch every kid play holes while other coaches are limited.
If he uses the cart to scoot around the course and watch more golf than the other coaches, then yes he should be limited. But if he's keeping pace with a group as a walking coach would, or using the cart to move from one watching spot to another and view the same number of groups as a walking coach I don't get this.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 5:52 pm to VegasPro
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If he gets one all should. He gets to watch every kid play holes while other coaches are limited.
Put a regulator on it that only allows it to go walking speed.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 5:52 pm to VegasPro
I've seen old people who couldn't walk chilling at the clubhouse during us am qualifying. The rule isn't there to screw people from watching. No way he wins this case.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 5:53 pm to VegasPro
that's the problem with protected classes...it has absolutely nothing to do with "separate but equal" or "equal protection".....
he has a legitimate health issue and I understand that. but I am sure there are many moms, dads, grandparents, etc. that have not been able to watch that would have loved to get that chance
he has a legitimate health issue and I understand that. but I am sure there are many moms, dads, grandparents, etc. that have not been able to watch that would have loved to get that chance
Posted on 6/26/13 at 5:54 pm to Golfer
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If he uses the cart to scoot around the course and watch more golf than the other coaches, then yes he should be limited. But if he's keeping pace with a group as a walking coach would, or using the cart to move from one watching spot to another and view the same number of groups as a walking coach I don't get this.
Now they have to give carts to every handicap person. What about really fat people? They get carts too?
Posted on 6/26/13 at 5:57 pm to VegasPro
quote:He's not really a spectator though since he's the a golf coach for a university golf team. This would affect his ability to perform his job relative to other coaches.
I've seen old people who couldn't walk chilling at the clubhouse during us am qualifying.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 6:00 pm to jturn17
Still a spectator. The thing here is there is no place to draw the line. What about a caddie who is handicap? What about a person who is on crutches? Etc.
He will likely not pursue this.
He will likely not pursue this.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 6:40 pm to VegasPro
Tournament director dropped the ball on this one
Posted on 6/26/13 at 6:46 pm to Golfer
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The USGA is so fricking stupid with this shite. Just let him use the dammed cart.
+1
Posted on 6/26/13 at 7:04 pm to Shankopotomus
He used a cart at the open and in qualifying last year. It's just some USGA moron at the local level. That's redundant though, because almost every person involved with the USGA at the local level is a moron
Posted on 6/26/13 at 7:18 pm to hehateme2285
The head of the usga is always at the championships. This wasn't a locals call.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 7:21 pm to Shankopotomus
Can he use one of those things you stand in and it roles around on 2 wheels?
Posted on 6/26/13 at 7:23 pm to hehateme2285
Of course he used a cart in a PGA qualifying event. Lol. He was playing. That what his case was about. This is something totally different.
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