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re: UFC 117 Prediction/In-Game Thread

Posted on 8/7/10 at 10:09 am to
Posted by LSUpsychWARD
Lafayette
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 10:09 am to
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and was tweeting tuesday about how he was weighing 210 after eating some good BBQ

i think he's only missed once before the hughes fight where he was freaking 174 and he was busted for using a diuretic another time plus its 100% he is a juiceball



Why do people stress out over this shite so much? I swear it seems like fans and the MMA media want to crucify Rumble or Alves about their fricking weight everytime they fight, who the frick cares? They lose money, and if a title is on the line then they lose their shot at that too. Thats one thing that I've never been able to understand about this sport. Besides, watching Alves getting thrown around and picked apart because of his height and reach in the middleweight division doesn't excite me in the least.
Posted by etm512
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 10:37 am to
It's because even though they miss weight they still get to fight, and, like I said before, an impressive victory can still vault you towards a title shot (re: Alves vs Hughes).

It's also just a matter of principles. Everyone else has to fast and dehydrate themselves to make weight, so you should too. In Alves' case for the Hughes fight he clearly said "frick it, I can't make weight" and didn't. This will give you an advantage not having to put your body through that just a day before the fight.
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 10:51 am to
What MW strikers are going to pick him apart besides Anderson Silva? And I doubt being wrestled on by Nate Marquardt or Okami is that much tougher than trying to wrestle GSP, Fitch and Kos after having cut 40lbs.
Posted by SmackDaniels
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 10:58 am to
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It's because even though they miss weight they still get to fight, and, like I said before, an impressive victory can still vault you towards a title shot (re: Alves vs Hughes).


this

You can't keep giving this guy title shots if he can't make weight. If he shows up for a title bout with GSP and doesn't make weight it's an embarrassment to the UFC.

Also how was he not able to cut an additional half a pound?
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 10:59 am to
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What MW strikers are going to pick him apart besides Anderson Silva?


Vitor, but your point still stands.
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 11:03 am to
Hector Lombard does ok at MW as a midget juiceball
Posted by LSUpsychWARD
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 11:34 am to
Did you see the pictures of Alves yesterday? He only missed weight by half a pound, so he did put his body through hell and I guarantee you Fitch is happy to take 20% of a co main event purse for the price of half a pound. shite I think Fitch cuts just as much weight as Alves. I'm just saying, I remember cutting weight for wrestling, and if I had some fat frick reporter shoving microphones in my face and asking me why I disappointed everyone by not making weight, I would have frickin snapped. And these guys literally have to hear it from atleast 30-40 people a day when they are in public or doing media.
Posted by LSUpsychWARD
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 11:40 am to
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What MW strikers are going to pick him apart besides Anderson Silva


He has the reach of a TRex. The advantages that he has over the 170 lb division all get lost if he were to try and go up to MW, yet the only thing he stands to gain is more energy from less cutting. He stuffed all of Hughes and Koscheck's takedowns at 170, but Sonnen, Okami, and Marquardt are so much bigger and stronger than those guys at MW.
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 11:45 am to
If you say so. Who are these MW strikers that would pick him apart again?
Posted by LSUpsychWARD
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 11:49 am to
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If you say so. Who are these MW strikers that would pick him apart again?



Anybody in the top 10 at MW would have a definite reach advantage, whether they are know for their strikes or not. But Wand, Bisping, Vitor, Leben, Akiyama, and Anderson could all give him problems depending on how well he would adapt... and Belcher
This post was edited on 8/7/10 at 11:50 am
Posted by LSUpsychWARD
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 12:11 pm to
Me and some of the other bouncers I work with have been putting down money on 1 or 2 fights the past few pay per views when we show up for work and I've been on a roll. But I can't find one fight that I feel safe betting on. If I get 2 to 1 odds on Big Country should I take it? I could see him landing a haymaker or taking it to the ground if Dos Santos slips up but JDS has looked like a fricking monster his past few fights. Do yall see any fights I could make money on tonight?
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 12:11 pm to
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Wand,

quote:

Leben, Akiyama


He is probably as big or bigger than these guys now.

quote:

Bisping


Alves would shite stomp Bisping at MW.

Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81263 posts
Posted on 8/7/10 at 12:17 pm to
I like JDS too much.

I'm sure you could get some good odds on Almeida from some bouncers who love Matt Hughes.
Posted by LSUpsychWARD
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2007
4291 posts
Posted on 8/7/10 at 12:18 pm to
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Alves would shite stomp Bisping at MW.



I would agree with you there but Bisping used to fight at LHW and he would be bigger than anyone Alves has fought in his career.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 12:21 pm to
Bisping is probably bigger than Alves, but Alves will still wipe the mat with him.
Posted by LSUpsychWARD
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2007
4291 posts
Posted on 8/7/10 at 12:22 pm to
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I'm sure you could get some good odds on Almeida from some bouncers who love Matt Hughes.



I've thought about that because most of them just pick the names they've heard of, but Almeida is almost as old as Hughes is. Speaking of which, did you ever see Renzo kick Nate Marquardt in his head with his boot when Almeida choked him out in Japan? Someone told me about it at work last night and I just looked it up. I have never heard anything about this before. LINK
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81263 posts
Posted on 8/7/10 at 12:26 pm to
ad on sherdog



yeah, i've seen that video before. I've always thought Marquardt was a bitch.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 12:28 pm to
suck on that Ron Ron
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81263 posts
Posted on 8/7/10 at 12:31 pm to
that looks like the shirt before the shirt before the shirt
Posted by LSUpsychWARD
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2007
4291 posts
Posted on 8/7/10 at 12:41 pm to
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yeah, i've seen that video before. I've always thought Marquardt was a bitch.



Haha, you would think that Dana would have tried to milk some kind of rivalry out of this when he got them both to sign with the UFC since neither of them can sell a fight if their lives depended on it.

I was looking for a GIF of Renzo's kick and came across this thread on MMAJunkie's forums. LINK

Its got some of the funniest and/or badass MMA photos you can find.









Just to share a few
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