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Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:10 pm to FootballNostradamus
quote:I mean, kinda
Is UCLA's brand that strong?
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:12 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:
yeah, adults with jobs.
These are teenage students playing a game in between going to class. They shouldn't be paid. If they are then what even makes them amateurs anymore?
I'm going with a different logic here.
Mine is that this is an all expenses paid apprenticeship for these athletes to hone their skills before they become multi-millionaire pros.
I also think the NCAA should allow them to moonlight. Do local car and restaurant commercials etc.
But they shouldn't be salaried.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:12 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:
They shouldn't be paid. If they are then what even makes them amateurs anymore?
So we shouldn't pay them so they can continue to carry the tag of amateur?
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:13 pm to FootballNostradamus
quote:
Is UCLA's brand that strong?
UCLA's brand is truly massive abroad especially in Asia. There are entire UCLA-branded stores in Chinese shopping malls.
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:14 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:These are adults.
yeah, adults with jobs.
quote:Yep, just a game. Nevermind $280million was just thrown around for this "game"
These are teenage students playing a game in between going to class
quote:Why shouldn't they be paid? The only real argument I've ever seen(other than they are paid with education) thrown is, "eh, that's just how it's always been done."
They shouldn't be paid. If they are then what even makes them amateurs anymore?
The guy who basically created the NCAA is on record talking about how messed up the system is.
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:15 pm to usc6158
quote:
UCLA's brand is truly massive abroad especially in Asia. There are entire UCLA-branded stores in Chinese shopping malls.
I guess in the US I don't think it's as big as Texas, Michigan and OSU (Just based on the article). A lot of this is "when" you make the deal. If OSU was making a deal next week, Nike would do $300
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:15 pm to SirWinston
quote:
I hope they don't ruin those beautiful football unis.
it can only go up from where Adidas left them. I fully expect them to go back to something like this. Look at Auburn or Notre Dame for reference on keeping a traditional look.
Shout out to Chris Markey
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:19 pm to McCaigBro69
quote:
Adidas is the only brand out there that's shittier than Under Armour.
What's weird is that outside of the U.S. Adidas dominates, mainly because of soccer. They have some pretty nice shite.
I don't know what their deal is outside of soccer though. Most of their shite is atrocious. You'd think they could hire some competent designera for other sports.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:25 pm to Buckeye06
quote:
I guess in the US I don't think it's as big as Texas, Michigan and OSU (Just based on the article).
Because it's not, not even close.
Like you said, though, timing is also another huge factor for these things.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:27 pm to FootballNostradamus
Scholarships were nice forms of compensation prior to uniform deals like this. Throw in TV deals and merchandise sales, and I think it's unfair. The dollars thrown around in athletic administration is unreal.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:35 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
how is that any different from what these adults do?
because their job is to go to class and be students while also playing football. They are amateurs. Ya know, not being paid for their services.
The coaches, ADs, and everyone else in teh industry..this is literally their actual job which necessitates compensation.
And as mentioned, these kids are getting 6 figures worth of free shite that the normal college student doesn't. Free housing, free food, unlimited access to tutors and private instruction, health/medical coverage, free clothes, a tryout 12 times a year to their future employer showing their worth, etc.
The day college fb players get paid legally is the day CFB as we've known it will die.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:35 pm to RedRifle
quote:Understanding adjusting for inflation, I'm guessing the salaries of coaches, ADs, administration types has gone up by a crazy factor compared to that education the players get in this booming industry. Would you agree?
I'm going with a different logic here. Mine is that this is an all expenses paid apprenticeship for these athletes to hone their skills before they become multi-millionaire pros.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:37 pm to wizziko
quote:Exactly. Get those beautiful traditional uniforms out of Adidas' incompetent hands. Those assholes frick up everything.
good for them because Adidas has completely butchered their football uniforms
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:37 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:Not a job
because their job is to go to class and be students
quote:That's the issue. Think about what I've said before, we're trying to fit the same rules that were used starting the NCAA before billions of dollars were introduced. It's illogical to think the rules shouldn't change for ONLY the athletes.
y are amateurs. Ya know, not being paid for their services.
quote:It's basically been happening for years now, fwiw.
The day college fb players get paid legally is the day CFB as we've known it will die.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:43 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:and then people get to make hundreds of millions of dollars off their little in between activity?
because their job is to go to class and be students while also playing football.
quote:please explain to me why this is right
Ya know, not being paid for their services.
quote:and their jobs literally come off the back of these adults who they exploit
..this is literally their actual job which necessitates compensation.
quote:lol
these kids are getting 6 figures worth of free shite that the normal college student doesn't.
LINK
"The average athletic scholarship is about $10,400"
here says a mens athletic scholarship is worth $14,270
quote:which is worth pennies over the hundreds of million of dollars they provide the school with
Free housing, free food, unlimited access to tutors and private instruction, health/medical coverage, free clothes, a tryout 12 times a year to their future employer showing their worth, etc.
quote:
The day college fb players get paid legally is the day CFB as we've known it will die.
please tell me how big of an amateur sport it is right now. schools sell tshirts and jersies with players numbers on them. they build 100k stadiums that require PSLs to buy season tickets for. they sell media rights that are worth like 1/3 or 1/2 of a billion dollars. but yea, totally an armature sport
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:47 pm to wizziko
quote:
it can only go up from where Adidas left them.
quote:
I fully expect them to go back to something like this
***Links pictures with Adidas unis***
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:51 pm to DynastyDawg
Josh Rosen on the new deal
"We're still amateurs though."
"We're still amateurs though."
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:52 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
LINK
"The average athletic scholarship is about $10,400"
quote:
The average athletic scholarship is about $10,400. Only four sports offer full rides to all athletes who receive scholarships: football, men's and women's basketball, and women's volleyball. If you exclude football and men's basketball, the average scholarship drops to around $8,700.
So let me get this straight. This bitch is telling us that if you are a man, your scholarship is worth more at the same school, than a woman?
Literally. It says that if you exclude the men's sports from the 4 that pay full scholarships, the average tuition amount drops? This can't be right?
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:52 pm to DynastyDawg
Josh Rosen just roasted his own school on instagram
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