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re: UAB protest almost turn violent when Watts leaves press conference

Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:29 pm to
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:29 pm to
Damn they get a crowd like that to immaturely boo Watts, but they can't show up for football games?
Posted by blzr
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:39 pm to
Because 28k is not showing up.
Posted by BamaDude06
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:39 pm to
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I used revenues as an example against it. Expenses don't really add anything to that argument.


Yes they do. Revenue - expenses = profit. Who cares if USA/Troy have less revenue than UAB if their profit from football is higher?

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He was proved wrong last night too. hell USA had 10,000 people at a game to get bowl eligible. and UAB had 30,000 vs Marshall.


What about against La-Tech? You know, the home game before Marshall with UAB sitting at 5 wins and UAB only got 9,457 to show up?
Posted by Indfanfromcol
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:41 pm to
Again, we weren't talking about profit, we were talking about their popularity. Keep up or keep out.
Posted by BowlJackson
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:44 pm to
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So what is all this I am hearing about that not only did the BoT not allow UAB to hire Jimbo and would not allow them to have an on campus stadium which would help their attendance, but they also wouldn't allow UAB to accept numerous donations to the athletic program????


All true. This won't end with football either. You know how scared Bama is of UAB athletics? Around the same time they nixed the Jimbo hire, there was a basketball player at Bama who was from Birmingham and wanted to transfer UAB. They released him to transfer to any school EXCEPT UAB. How does that benefit Bama? It certainly isn't a competitive threat, Bama is too scared to play UAB in basketball. The only time they've faced off is when they were forced to in the NIT in the early 90s and UAB beat Bama.
Posted by harry coleman beast
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:45 pm to
If all those people would show up at the games it might help
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:47 pm to
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Around the same time they nixed the Jimbo hire, there was a basketball player at Bama who was from Birmingham and wanted to transfer UAB. They released him to transfer to any school EXCEPT UAB. How does that benefit Bama?
They denied his release to UAB because they believed UAB's coach went behind their back to convince him to transfer.

ETA: He ended up transferring to North Carolina.
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 9:50 pm
Posted by Indfanfromcol
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:48 pm to
I'm not sure if I would expect anyone to show up if my team played in Legion Field.
Posted by BowlJackson
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:51 pm to
That seems petty if you ask me. If I recall it was a kid that wasn't getting playing time at Bama anyway. You would think a school would want what's best for a kid. Isn't that why schools exist in the first place?
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:55 pm to
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That seems petty if you ask me. If I recall it was a kid that wasn't getting playing time at Bama anyway. You would think a school would want what's best for a kid. Isn't that why schools exist in the first place?
It happens quite often everywhere when the same situation arises. Most schools will let you go where you want, buy you have to do it the right way.

Also, Knox was getting playing time at UA.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:10 pm to
Straight from UAB:

UAB subsidizes $20 million of the roughly $30 million annual athletic department operating budget. Over the next five years, the difference between eliminating the football program and maintaining a competitive Conference USA program equates to $49 million, the report estimates.

Some have suggested that philanthropic support could help sustain UAB football, said Allen Bolton, the vice president of Financial Affairs. An internal analysis refuted that notion. Private giving in years past has hovered around $2 million, which suggests donations could not realistically support the program, Bolton said.

He said the University of Alabama system's Board of Trustees was not involved, despite widespread speculation to the contrary.

Watts believes the impact on recruitment will be modest, causing few prospective students to reconsider UAB because football isn't the main draw.

He highlighted recent additions or plans for construction on campus - the new Hill Student Center and a new residence hall for freshmen - as successes.

"Our undergraduates have different backgrounds," he said. "This is an urban campus with a vibrant undergraduate community. Attendance at football games has not been a major part of their activities."

LINK
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 10:11 pm
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:21 pm to
Funny that they are chanting POS to a guy over football.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:23 pm to
For anyone interested, here is the full report Watts was given about the football study.


LINK
Posted by BamaDude06
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:27 pm to
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Again, we weren't talking about profit, we were talking about their popularity. Keep up or keep out.


Yeah it's not like CUSA had anything to do with higher revenue. It's not popularity.

2013 Average attendance:
USA- 15,926
Troy- 18,906
UAB- 10,548

But you're right, UAB is more popular.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:29 pm to
Well, the dude is clearly a POS
Posted by blzr
Keeneland
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:34 pm to
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But you're right, UAB is more popular.


UAB had a much higher attendance than both those schools this year.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
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Member since Jan 2011
14723 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:41 pm to
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But you're right, UAB is more popular.



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UAB had a much higher attendance than both those schools this year.







Over 30,000 against Troy and averaged around 21,841.
While Troy averaged 16,767 this year and USA at 17,444.
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 10:42 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:44 pm to
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He said the University of Alabama system's Board of Trustees was not involved, despite widespread speculation to the contrary.


El oh El
Posted by blzr
Keeneland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:48 pm to
I seriously think some bama fans think Troy and USA fill their stadiums, and UAB gets 3000 a game.
Posted by BamaDude06
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:57 pm to
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Over 30,000 against Troy and averaged around 21,841.
While Troy averaged 16,767 this year and USA at 17,444.


2012 Troy-20,952
UAB- 15,271
USA- 16,793

2011 Troy- 17,898
UAB- 16,579
USA- 18,442

2010 Troy-18,947
UAB- 18,360
USA- 18,765

2009 Troy- 18,413
UAB- 17,987
USA- 18,031

....but UAB is more popular
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