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Ty Cobb's 10 tips on how to a hit a baseball

Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:57 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:57 pm
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A young and upcoming rookie once wrote a letter to the legendary Ty Cobb on May 18, 1938. The letter requested hitting advice and Cobb was surprisingly willing to provide it.

Sam Chapman put Cobb's advice to good use and was able to play Major League baseball for thirteen years with various teams. In 1947, the letter was made public and became an instant set of fundamental rules which are still used in some form to this day.

Ty Cobb’s Batting Instruction is from a letter that he wrote to rookie outfielder Sam Chapman on May 18, 1938. It first appeared in print in 1947.

1. When it comes to hitting a ball do not hold your bat at the end. leave, say an inch or two. In addition, at least an inch or more space between your hands that gives you balance and control of BAT, which also keeps hands from interfering with each other during the swing.

2. Take position especially against right hand pitchers near the back of the plate and against a man with a real curve, you can stay on the back line of the batter's box. Now try to hit to right-center. I don't mean you should place the ball in any one spot, but start now practicing to hit your right-handers to the opposite field. An inside ball from a right-hand pitcher you will naturally pull, say, to left-center.

3. Do not slug the bullet at full speed, learn how to meet the ball firmly and you will be surprised by the results.

4. Now how do you hit to center-right or center? You stand away from the plate the distance you can see with your mind's eye that you can hit the ball that curves on inside corner, to center. This distance from the plate allows you to hit the ball out to right. In other words, you can protect the plate as well as the inside and outside corners.

5. Remember, the plate is a pitcher's target and he has to come to it. I use 'back of plate' expression to mean towards the catcher, away from plate to denote distance from plate towards outside of box. Now use a bit’ closed stance and keep a little more weight on the front foot and back. It gives you balance and won't pull you away from corners. You’re always going to give the maximum drive.

6. Do not pull a curve ball from a right-hander. The ball is revolving away from you. Hit off the revolution and to right field.

7. Keep your left elbow cocked on level with your hands or even higher. Never let your elbow get underneath your hands, and always keep your hands away from your body – keep pushing them out, even with your body or back.

8. Keep your back leg straight. Of course, if you put your weight on the front legs, the back leg will be straight.

9. If high inside fastballs really bothers you: Crouch from your waist and let them pass. Do not bite, in other words. Squat, make the pitcher throw lower, which set it apart from the position that bothers him. But I think with the instructions I give, you will hit the pitches wherever they land.

10. Against a hard throwing left-hander: Do not pull the ball. Use the same position I gave you, and when he throws you his curve, knock him down with it or you will naturally pull when the ball breaks on you. But against a lefty who throws slower: Get in the box as close to the plate and pull the ball against this style of pitching.


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Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:58 pm to
Was expecting more racism
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:02 pm to
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Was expecting more racism
to be fair, I don't think there is any person ty cobb met that he wasn't an insufferable cocksucker towards, who cares why.

Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted by BCMCubs
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:11 pm to
So was I
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:15 pm to
greatness
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:26 pm to
GOAT hitter in MLB history. Not close.
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:31 pm to
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Was expecting more racism
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:36 pm to
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Was expecting more racism
How Ty Cobb was framed as a racist
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Cobb enthusiastically supported the integration of major league baseball when he was asked about Jackie Robinson in 1952. He told The Sporting News, “The negro has the right to compete in sports and who’s to say they have not?”

He called Roy Campanella a “great” player, said Willie Mays was “the only player I’d pay money to see” and after Campanella’s crippling car accident, praised Dodgers owner Walter O’Malley for holding a candlelit tribute “for this fine man.”

Even back in the 1920s, Cobb would befriend Negro League ballplayers such as Detroit Stars infielder Bobby Robinson, who said “there wasn’t a hint of prejudice in Cobb’s attitude.”

One of several blacks employed by Cobb, Alex Rivers, named his son after the ballplayer and said, “I love the man.”
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Why the determination to brand Cobb as the worst racist ever? Stump apparently believed a more sensational book would lead to more sales. But a large part of the story, Leerhsen notes, is simply that the accurate perception of Cobb as a hothead simply got mixed up with the fact that he was born in Georgia in 1886. Bad temper, Southerner: Must have been a racist.

That’s both too broadly damning — not only were Southerners not necessarily racist, Cobb’s own father fought for better treatment of blacks — and it lets us off the hook too easily.

Detecting sin in someone else is a way of announcing to the world, and to yourself, your own virtue.


Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:38 pm to
We already have our narrative. Move along.
Posted by LakeViewLSU
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:44 pm to
I knew it!

Ty Cobb was a role model!
Posted by WestCoastAg
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145174 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:49 pm to
Wow. What a nice guy he was
Posted by tokenBoiler
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:53 pm to
Looks like pretty sound advice.

I like Mickey Mantle's (also attributed to Hack Wilson, and probably a lot of others, too) -- "I see three balls coming and swing at the one in the middle"
Posted by okietiger
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Member since Oct 2005
40971 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 5:00 pm to
Doesn't some of this advice seem odd? Keeping hand separated? Keep weight on front leg? Keep back leg straight?

Doesn't seem like Cobb swung that way:

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Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:57 pm to
You can't tell anything with those old 1910's hand-crank Aeroscope cameras.

Hell, look at football...every football player runs about 150 miles an hour.

Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 7:34 am to
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Do not pull a curve ball from a right-hander. The ball is revolving away from you. Hit off the revolution and to right field.


A left-handed batter hitting a right handers curve ball to right field is pulling the ball. This makes no sense.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 7:41 am to
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A left-handed batter hitting a right handers curve ball to right field is pulling the ball. This makes no sense.


True, but Sam Chapman was a right-handed hitter, so Cobb was talking about everything in reverse.


ETA: Like this from tip #2: "Now try to hit to right-center. I don't mean you should place the ball in any one spot, but start now practicing to hit your right-handers to the opposite field. An inside ball from a right-hand pitcher you will naturally pull, say, to left-center."
This post was edited on 8/25/16 at 7:42 am
Posted by Tiger Ugly
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 7:42 am to
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to be fair, I don't think there is any person ty cobb met that he wasn't an insufferable cocksucker towards, who cares why.


Read the autobiography Cobb and even though the guy who wrote it who became one of his only remaining friends upon his death, he came across as one of the most despicable human beings I have ever heard of, should have honestly spent his adult years in jail.
Posted by Zach
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Member since May 2005
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:48 am to
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Doesn't some of this advice seem odd? Keeping hand separated?


Leon Wagner swung with power with hands separated.


The theory is that as the top hand is propelling the bat more than the bottom hand ..just before contact the bottom hand pulls the knob back toward the body causing bat head speed to increase.
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8429 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 11:19 am to
"Keep your back leg straight" is atrocious advice.
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