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re: Tour de France. Stage 21. Final Day. Cheers to Froome.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:49 am to bbap
Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:49 am to bbap
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Landa looks like he's on a lazy stroll in the park.
As opposed to Aru who looks like he's about to puke. God that must hurt.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 9:50 am
Posted on 7/19/17 at 10:06 am to lnomm34
This descent makes me nervous and i'm sitting in a chair that's below sea level
Posted on 7/19/17 at 10:21 am to BlackCoffeeKid
Descending at over 50 MPH. Screw. That.
ETA: Are these guys going to let Froome take another time bonus?? Yep. Got third for 4 seconds. Uran took 6, but only nets 2 to Froome. I wish Bardet would have taken third.
ETA: Are these guys going to let Froome take another time bonus?? Yep. Got third for 4 seconds. Uran took 6, but only nets 2 to Froome. I wish Bardet would have taken third.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 10:28 am
Posted on 7/19/17 at 11:01 am to lnomm34
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And I will NEVER understand what the frick Froome is doing looking down all the time. He has such an ugly style. It is hideous to watch.
He's watching his power meter the entire race. He knows he can put out x power for x time and they manage it over the race.
Sky is a data driven team. This is what makes Sagan so great he just rides.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 11:13 am to theCrusher
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He's watching his power meter the entire race. He knows he can put out x power for x time and they manage it over the race.
I'm not sure if you're a cyclist or not, but in road races, looking at your power numbers is nearly useless unless you're on a solo break or you're pulling at the front. He's ALWAYS looking down, back up, back down, back up, back down.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 6:32 pm to bbap
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Landa looks like he's on a lazy stroll in the park.
I thought the same thing today. He dropped off just a bit at the end, but he put in the hard work all day for Froome. Too bad he can't have a real go at it. That must suck to have to hold back like that.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 7/19/17 at 7:24 pm to lnomm34
You might be correct that a power meter is useless in a stage for Froome or any cyclist in certain situations. Only when they're under attack or attacking they might not be able to reference their output, but the rest of the time that display is Froome's bible. Not everyone relies on the meters the same but they all use it to judge their power in relation to how they feel .He looks down more than most and a lot of that comes from his training with the watt output being a key component and some of his style on a bike is awkward at best. But I assure you, he's watching his watts and knows where he's at physically and uses that info to judge his effort. Btw: today's stage was disappointing. Sky is just so strong they have everyone in GC at their limit and that makes any effort to attack brief and not really likely to succeed. Hope they attack Froome up the Vars and isolate him making his team chase hard coming down to the base of the Izoard. If that happens, they may have many chances to make him chase. He has a big advantage in that, he will beat these guy pretty good on Saturday. So, he doesn't have to beat them tomorrow to win the tour...they must beat him bad to win the tour. Pressure is on the ones behind Froome. Not sure they can crack Froom enough to win the race at this point. But, I would be the first to laugh tomorrow if Froome almost comes to a stop on the mountain after an attack from frenchy or uran. Hoping for a good stage tomorrow.
Edit for grammar...
Edit for grammar...
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 7/19/17 at 7:39 pm to pennypacker3
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But I assure you, he's watching his watts and knows where he's at physically and uses that info to judge his effort.
I assure you looking at his power meter is a nervous tick. The dude is a professional cyclist who trains an absolute TON. He's in touch with his body. I bet he can guess his power output at a given time within 10-15 watts. Hell, I'm a shitty Cat 3 and I can do that. The only time I start to look up/down/up/down is when I'm hurting like frick and hoping it eases off soon!
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Sky is just so strong they have everyone in GC at their limit and that makes any effort to attack brief and not really likely to succeed. Hope they attack Froome up the Vars and isolate him making his team chase hard coming down to the base of the Izoard. If that happens, they may have many chances to make him chase
There just aren't enough strong domestiques for the other GC contenders. They'd need strong domestiques to work together to shed some Sky riders. Even then, the GC guys would need to be ready to lose out on the podium to go for the actually win. I think we are seeing guys racing for the podium and not the win. The attacks/counterattacks would basically mean that someone is going to get dropped. Instead they seem content to ride for the podium. Bardet was impressive today. Besides that, you're right: pretty boring.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 7:43 pm to lnomm34
Landa still hasn't opened his mouth all Tour. He's the only guy here who can beat Froome
Posted on 7/19/17 at 7:52 pm to usc6158
Landa is just a machine. Total stud.
Found myself rooting against Aru today too. Not because he's a bad guy but because the GC contenders were able to put distance on him during fair competition.
Barring real fireworks tomorrow seems like Froome can put a bow on this tour.
If memory serves, after tomorrow there a sprint stage, a TT, and then a promenade to the finish line.
Found myself rooting against Aru today too. Not because he's a bad guy but because the GC contenders were able to put distance on him during fair competition.
Barring real fireworks tomorrow seems like Froome can put a bow on this tour.
If memory serves, after tomorrow there a sprint stage, a TT, and then a promenade to the finish line.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 7:57 pm to lnomm34
To your last point, I do think the "podium racing" is real and it holds true in most tours. Here's the problem...the guy behind know that can't beat Froome heads up but must work in tandem with the other chaser to break Froome. Who goes first...do we rotate the attack sequences and who gets left holding the bag. They probably can't work that out because of trust, their form this late in the race and the fact that the highest placement possible is good for their team and the salary they can command. I wish they would go all Contador on him tomorrow, but I think only Frenchy or Uran are up for it. Hope someone feel great tomorrow and wants to be a champion. All that said, still think Froome has the trophy in the end.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:00 pm to usc6158
What you speak about Landa has a lot of merit. Landa is strong and Froome is glad he's a team player! Wink!
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:05 pm to pennypacker3
Hope Uran goes for it tomorrow. But is he willing to take the risk? Dude looked good today and probably could have attacked, but maybe he was waiting for tomorrow. He needs a little over a minute because he should be able to stay close enough to Froome in Saturdays itt.
The Bardet repeated attacks were great. Always times it to when Aru was just getting back.
The Bardet repeated attacks were great. Always times it to when Aru was just getting back.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:14 pm to pennypacker3
I absolutely agree. They'd need a big chunk of time even though the TT in Marseilles is quite short. They'd need Uran to make the ~30 seconds up and then put another 30-45 seconds on Froome to go into the TT about a minute or so ahead to have a shot.
i definitely don't see it happening. But hey, they have to race their bikes and crazy things have happened in this Tour already. Maybe Froome has ANOTHER mechanical and they finally say 'frick it if he can't keep his bike working'
i definitely don't see it happening. But hey, they have to race their bikes and crazy things have happened in this Tour already. Maybe Froome has ANOTHER mechanical and they finally say 'frick it if he can't keep his bike working'
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:16 pm to castorinho
Uran maybe the strongest of the chasers imo. I think he's in a bad spot with 2 having a pretty good team along with Sky. He can't really go until it's just the GC guys and maybe Landa. They will chase, if you see my point. He needs 2 and Martin to go crazy on Vars and hope to ride the last climb in a small group. Then, he may have options...
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:23 pm to lnomm34
I laughed at the "keep his bike working" part! If he feels bad tomorrow and pulls that...hope they "Speedy Gonzalez" his azz! LOL
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:31 pm to pennypacker3
Today I realized that Contador is done he will never race as a legitimate leader in TdF again. Today was his swan song.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:38 pm to pennypacker3
Yeah he can't start the festivities. He'll have to hope someone else does, and Bardet seems like he DGAF so maybe him.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:39 pm to lnomm34
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I'm not sure if you're a cyclist
I ride a few hundred miles per week now and raced but power meters were not as affordable then as they are now so I never used one.
I do stand corrected. From Cycling weekly.
“I’m not just staring at my power meter when my head goes down. My gaze is a little bit lower,” Froome explained.
“My neck gets tired. I’ve a very rounded upper back and I find my neck gets tired. I find it’s easier for me to breathe, I can get more oxygen when my head is lower down.”
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:40 pm to sms151t
He's a fighter. That's about the only thing I admired about him.
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