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I only watch saints and LSU games on espn. I haven't watched sports center in 20 years and could only name Berman as one of their personalities.

I honest to God haven't intentionally watched one of ESPN's talking blah blah blah shows in YEARS. Since the summer of Rachael Nicholls on Farves lawn while they had someone else following Tebow around, I turned it off. I don't even listen to sports radio anymore because they're blowing the same shite out of their asses that ESPN does, including DP who just can't stop talking about Sterling. I'm done with the shite. All of it.

I'll watch CFB/MNF on ESPN but that's essentially it. I'll watch football on there but that's it. I watch NHL Network for the hockey highlights, NBC/NBCsn for the live NHL games, Fox/CBS for the NFL games, and that's it for me.

ESPN is 100% a complete shell of it's former self, and I honestly don't get who is sitting around and watching people talk about people playing sports all day. I don't know how Around the Horn and PTI suddenly spawned off 20 hours of talking programs. I don't understand how people can put a tv show which shows a radio show in progress when they can just listen to it. Does watching the radio show on tv add some element of suspense?

I don't get it.

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The Packers in the same sentence as Broncos, Patriots and Seahawks?

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You mean the team that has won a Super Bowl more recently than the Broncos and Patriots?

I'm not saying that they must die, but it would be nice to have the old sportscenter back that showed highlights instead of reading tweets and debating the impact of Lebron changing numbers for 20 minutes. I liked it when they showed obscure sports instead of twenty different shows yapping about the same 5 topics. Ever since it became gossip and speculation for 18 hours of the day I turned it off, but yet there are some people out there parked with a bucket of popcorn every day enjoying it according to the ratings - but nobody admits it.

Another thing that I got tired of was them reporting the gossip and rumors as fact with the tag line of "According to sources", but when it comes out as false they'll never apologize for shaming someone - such as that whole wiretapping/eavesdropping business they slammed Mickey Loomis with that turned out to be complete bullshite. Or when Mark Texeria was traded to the "Yankess, according to sources.." then wound up later in the day in Atlanta but they didn't bat an eye or apologize for reporting rumors as truth.

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They still do plenty of that

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except they don't. It used to be every highlight of every game from the big 4...essentially they do this, but you have to make time for debate sessions and personalities to get their time, etc. so while some games get highlights, a lot of "less meaningful" games get a 2 second clip and a score.

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First Take, for instance, was entertaining as hell during these last couple of Finals

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you know I have no issue with you, so please don't take this the wrong way...you're a young/ISH, black male (from what I've gathered)First Take is tailor made for you. In some ways just like people target other demographics, nothing to see here...but ESPN actually does do it in some pretty slimy ways.

Mediacom doesn't have MLB Network

For real sports talk I listen to SiriusXM

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I quit watching after they got rid of cold pizza.

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Nice troll lol.

I listen to ESPN radio at work but I haven't watched ESPN for anything other than games and gameday for years.

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You're lying

You're a liar

2 different things. It's not semantics at all.

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Absolutely it is. Per google, the very definition of "liar" is "a person who tells lies." It doesn't have to mean that he tells lies all the time, just that he does.

So you definitely called him a liar (without specifically using the word), especially coupled with the rest of your responses (stating more than several times that you flat out don't believe what he was saying).

It's no big deal, but let's not ignore what you actually said.