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Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 5:28 pm to
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How is Belicheck distinguishable from Jimmy Johnson, Bill Walsh, Chuck Noll, or Bill Parcells? Tom


His success came in the salary cap/free agent era

A lot easier to dominate an era when you dont have to worry about 4-5 major contributors leaving in the offseason and a limit on how much money you can spend on them
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 5:31 pm to
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Panthers lost that superbowl because their kicker couldn't keep the kickoff in bounds...eagles were never a match regardless of what that score said...and the rams receivers were punked at the LOS simple as that.


I agree with ALL of this.... AND they lost to the Giants.TWICE. Once after facing them in the last game of the regular season. They went All-out to finish 16-0. and it bit them in the arse in the SB.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53340 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 5:39 pm to
I feel like they have the right amount of SBs. The first one was bullshite with the tuck rule and it felt like they otherwise junked their way through that run. The next two were legit, but they absolutely got their hearts cut out by ridiculous plays like the insane Tyree and Manningham catches and Welker's drop in the losses.

Anyway, with the two SB losses, spygate and the fact that Brady may have made Belichick (not the other way around), I have a hard time putting him over Bill Walsh and some other greats. Charlie Weis and Josh McDaniels didn't look so good without Brady. Funny how that works.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 5:39 pm to
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HOF coach for sure


ok.


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Not in the same class as Lombardi


I will agree here.


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BB



Really????



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and others.


Name these OTHERS............
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 5:54 pm to
False
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6088 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

His success came in the salary cap/free agent era

A lot easier to dominate an era when you dont have to worry about 4-5 major contributors leaving in the offseason and a limit on how much money you can spend on them

True but he won all his superbowls over a 4 year period.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:01 pm to
If not for a fluke play, he wins in 07. And they were one great throw to manningham to winning another
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 6:02 pm
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112327 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:05 pm to
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True but he won all his superbowls over a 4 year period.


So? Hes had 10 plus win in 11/12 years since 2001. What the hell does it matter that he was just really fricking dominant for those 4 years? Its not like thats his only success

This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 6:07 pm
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:09 pm to
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If not for a fluke play, he wins in 07


bullshite. What about the other 59 mins of the game with one of the BEST offenses of all-time???
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:11 pm to
They lost. No excuses. The play was made, but to act like he isn't a hair away from having 5 rings, well 7 really, is absurd.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:17 pm to
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They lost. No excuses. The play was made, but to act like he isn't a hair away from having 5 rings, well 7 really, is absurd.



Not at all. They had a great game plan to beat the Rams in 2001. They barley beat[and were outplayed] by Carolina in the 2nd win. They should have CRUSHED the overated Eagles team and won by another last second FG. And the best offense of all-time in 2007 and got BEATDOWN by the Giants. And then they lost to basically the same Giants team again. Fluke play or not. Head to head??? Coughlin>>>>>>>>>>>>>BB.


Landry>>>>>>>>>>>>>BB............
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112327 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:18 pm to
Lol
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:30 pm to
False
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
202899 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:34 pm to
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Lol



Prove me wrong..... Can you?????
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:35 pm to
Correct answer is Paul Brown
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
202899 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:46 pm to
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Correct answer is Paul Brown


No problem with this choice.

Just like the greatest QB of all-time is his Browns QB. Otto Graham.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:47 pm to
False
Lombardi is the best
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34662 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 7:27 pm to
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I remember when Landry later introduced the shotgun formation


Niners used the shotgun in the early 60s, and the single wing used a shotgun-type snap.

Landry was rather unique in being one of the few who had some expertise on both sides of the ball.
Posted by oompaw
In piney hill country...
Member since Dec 2007
6271 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

Correct answer is Paul Brown



quote:

No problem with this choice.

Just like the greatest QB of all-time is his Browns QB. Otto Graham.


Along with the greatest running back of all-time. Jim Brown.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 7:51 pm to
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Walsh innovated the west coast, true, but I would argue BB changed the way a head coach runs an entire organization down to every last detail...

Eh, he mostly emulates Parcells. I'd rank Walsh above him.
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