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re: TOP 15 NBA PLAYERS rankings ballot
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:20 pm to StlPoke
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:20 pm to StlPoke
quote:Nah. You can say he's 4th, that's fine. But he has just as strong of an argument for #3, and even an argument for #2(at worst, it's not laughable to suggest), to be honest.
yeah. He is at best 4th
quote:This is why you could argue he's the most valuable player on GS, he changes everything on the offensive side of the ball. Yes, even more than KD does.
I will say people do overlook how he opens the floor up just by crossing half court, making offense a lot easier for everyone else
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 2:21 pm
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:22 pm to StlPoke
quote:And they do the same for him.
I will say people do overlook how he opens the floor up just by crossing half court, making offense a lot easier for everyone else
On a bad team, he isn't the Steph that we know and..well, some love.
Lebron is still the Lebron we know.
KD is the same guy.
Kawhi is probably the same guy.
Harden is pretty the same guy.
Russ is the same guy.
Plenty players are the same.
Nothing will convince me that Steph would be the same player. Btw, I'm not ranking all of those guys over him.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:23 pm to ReauxlTide222
1. Lebron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Steph Curry
4. Kawhi Leonard
5. James Harden
6. Russell Westbrook
7. Anthony Davis
8. Chris Paul
9. Giannis Antetokounmpo
10. John Wall
11. Paul George
12. Demarcus Cousins
13. Karl Anthony Towns
14. Jimmy Butler
15. Gordon Hayward
A lot of guys I can see arguments for being in here: Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Kyrie Irving, Kyle Lowry, Demar Derozan, Damian Lillard
2. Kevin Durant
3. Steph Curry
4. Kawhi Leonard
5. James Harden
6. Russell Westbrook
7. Anthony Davis
8. Chris Paul
9. Giannis Antetokounmpo
10. John Wall
11. Paul George
12. Demarcus Cousins
13. Karl Anthony Towns
14. Jimmy Butler
15. Gordon Hayward
A lot of guys I can see arguments for being in here: Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Kyrie Irving, Kyle Lowry, Demar Derozan, Damian Lillard
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:24 pm to shel311
quote:You and this damn stat
Gravity
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:53 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:That gravity though!
On a bad team, he isn't the Steph that we know and..well, some love.
Lebron is still the Lebron we know.
KD is the same guy.
Kawhi is probably the same guy.
Harden is pretty the same guy.
Russ is the same guy.
Plenty players are the same.
You're underestimating how those players on that bad team would magically become much better offensively, because Steph gets attention out to 30 feet, like no player we've ever seen before.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:54 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:When will you acknowledge its importance!!!
You and this damn stat
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:55 pm to LSU Fan 90812
I mean, I know he plays for the Pels, but the fact that so many people have Cousins in the top 10 is absurd.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 3:02 pm to Dawgsontop34
You don't think a case could be made for him being the 9th-10th best? I don't have him there, but it is an argument one could make. He is top 15.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 3:06 pm to LSU Fan 90812
1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. Steph
4. Kawhi
5. Harden
6. CP3
7. Westbrook
8. Anthony Davis
9. Jimmy Butler
10. Giannis
11. Wall
12. George
13. Draymond
14. Gobert
15. Lowry
CP3 and Westbrook were a virtual tie for me.
I had a really tough time with 12-15. Also considered Boogie, KAT, Lillard
2. Durant
3. Steph
4. Kawhi
5. Harden
6. CP3
7. Westbrook
8. Anthony Davis
9. Jimmy Butler
10. Giannis
11. Wall
12. George
13. Draymond
14. Gobert
15. Lowry
CP3 and Westbrook were a virtual tie for me.
I had a really tough time with 12-15. Also considered Boogie, KAT, Lillard
Posted on 6/28/17 at 3:07 pm to LSU Fan 90812
Chris Paul and Harden are overrated, especially Harden. You can't be top 5 if you absolutely choke in the playoffs, let alone quit and play zero D.
1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. Kawhi
4. Curry
5. Davis
6. Westbrook (as an individual talent, he's top 10, but he'll never win shite with this style of play)
7. Harden (one dimensional player who will also never win shite because he's a bitch and plays no d.)
8. Giannis
9. George
10. Wall
11. Paul
12. Irving
13. Cousins
14. Thompson
15. Draymond
1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. Kawhi
4. Curry
5. Davis
6. Westbrook (as an individual talent, he's top 10, but he'll never win shite with this style of play)
7. Harden (one dimensional player who will also never win shite because he's a bitch and plays no d.)
8. Giannis
9. George
10. Wall
11. Paul
12. Irving
13. Cousins
14. Thompson
15. Draymond
Posted on 6/28/17 at 3:09 pm to DallasTiger45
quote:Westbrook is a crazy talent, triple doubles, MVP, the works.
CP3 and Westbrook were a virtual tie for me.
But honestly, if you're giving me 1 game for my life, Chris Paul is going to a couple dudes who are generally considered better players. Westbrook would be 1 of them, I'd go with Paul over Westbrook with 1 game for my life and i had to choose 1 of the 2 with my 1st pick.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 3:10 pm to LSU Fan 90812
Lebron
KD
Steph
James
Kawhi
Paul
Westbrook
Davis
George
Greek freak
Butler
Wall
Draymond
Kyrie
Lowry
KD
Steph
James
Kawhi
Paul
Westbrook
Davis
George
Greek freak
Butler
Wall
Draymond
Kyrie
Lowry
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 6/28/17 at 3:10 pm to ghost2most
quote:But you can be top 5 without ever winning a playoff game?
You can't be top 5 if you absolutely choke in the playoffs
quote:Ok, that's awkward.
10. Wall
11. Paul
Posted on 6/28/17 at 3:13 pm to LSU Fan 90812
1. LeBron
2. Durant
3. Kawhi
4. Curry
5. Westbrook
6. Harden
7. Davis
8. Chris Paul
9. Boogie
10. Wall
11. Giannis
12. Lillard
13. Butler
14. George
15. Draymond
2. Durant
3. Kawhi
4. Curry
5. Westbrook
6. Harden
7. Davis
8. Chris Paul
9. Boogie
10. Wall
11. Giannis
12. Lillard
13. Butler
14. George
15. Draymond
Posted on 6/28/17 at 3:19 pm to shel311
quote:
Westbrook is a crazy talent, triple doubles, MVP, the works. But honestly, if you're giving me 1 game for my life, Chris Paul is going to a couple dudes who are generally considered better players. Westbrook would be 1 of them, I'd go with Paul over Westbrook with 1 game for my life and i had to choose 1 of the 2 with my 1st pick.
It's tough to compare them because the styles of play are so different, but I think CP3 can be successful in more systems and team constructions. Very subjective, of course.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 3:21 pm to LSU Fan 90812
1. Bron
2. KD
3. Kawhi
4. Westbrook
5. Curry
2. KD
3. Kawhi
4. Westbrook
5. Curry
Posted on 6/28/17 at 3:28 pm to CocoLoco
quote:
You don't think a case could be made for him being the 9th-10th best? I don't have him there, but it is an argument one could make. He is top 15.
Nope. I think he's the black Kevin Love. Good numbers, bad team guy.
My top 15 is;
1. Lebron
2. KD
3. Kawhi
4. Steph (struggled with him & Kawhi)
5. Russ
6. Harden
7. CP3
8. Brow
9. Draymond
10. Wall
11. Giannis
12. PG13
13. Butler
14. Kyrie
15. Lillard
Also considered: Klay, Gobert, Derozan
Posted on 6/28/17 at 3:28 pm to shel311
Better hope you also have Janerro Pargo to take all the shots if it's a big game
Posted on 6/28/17 at 3:29 pm to LSU Fan 90812
1. LeBron
2. Kid
3. Kawhi
4. Steph
5. Westbrook
6. Harden
7.Greek
8. Chris Paul
9 butler
10. Ad
11. Kat
12. John wall
13. George
14. Milsalp
15. Derozen
2. Kid
3. Kawhi
4. Steph
5. Westbrook
6. Harden
7.Greek
8. Chris Paul
9 butler
10. Ad
11. Kat
12. John wall
13. George
14. Milsalp
15. Derozen
Posted on 6/28/17 at 7:11 pm to Dawgsontop34
I am not a pelicans fan.
go look at what he's done when healthy with the kings and pels and try to tell me differently. add the fact that he s starting to hit 3s and you have the best offensive big in the league and it's not close.
he's been on shite teams with shite coaching in a guard driven league with zero point guards. I don't care if you have him 10 or 15. but the dude is a fricking monster.
ETA: he's bigger stronger better post player than love ever has been. and I like klove better than the average fan.
go look at what he's done when healthy with the kings and pels and try to tell me differently. add the fact that he s starting to hit 3s and you have the best offensive big in the league and it's not close.
he's been on shite teams with shite coaching in a guard driven league with zero point guards. I don't care if you have him 10 or 15. but the dude is a fricking monster.
ETA: he's bigger stronger better post player than love ever has been. and I like klove better than the average fan.
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 7:13 pm
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