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re: Tony Stewart Won't Face Charges
Posted on 9/24/14 at 5:23 pm to crimsonsaint
Posted on 9/24/14 at 5:23 pm to crimsonsaint
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So if he smoked at lunch before the race would the THC still be "active"? Cause he sure as shite wouldn't be high.
Regardless if it was still active enough to have a clear cognitive impact at the time, it may be evidence that he was prone to poor judgement if he was willing risk impairment just prior to a race.
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 5:23 pm to boom roasted
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I don't believe Ward was stoned during the actual race
Why?
Probably because it's counterproductive.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 5:28 pm to crimsonsaint
quote:People do stupid shite all the time. I wouldn't rule it out just because it's "counterproductive."
Probably because it's counterproductive.
ETA: There more I think about it, "because it's counterproductive" might just be the worst argument of all time. Well maybe not the worst, but it makes the playoff.
This post was edited on 9/24/14 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 9/24/14 at 5:45 pm to boom roasted
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People do stupid shite all the time. I wouldn't rule it out just because it's "counterproductive." ETA: There more I think about it, "because it's counterproductive" might just be the worst argument of all time. Well maybe not the worst, but it makes the playoff.
Agreed.
Poor decision-makers make counterproductive decisions all the time. Walking into speeding cars on a dimly lit track is one of the most obvious counterproductive decisions one can make. In comparison to that, smoking is not nearly as counterproductive, but taken together it starts to establish a pattern of poor and counterproductive decision-making.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 7:00 pm to Stagg8
There was a second video that the public has not seen.
The driver from the(45)car that had to swerve to miss Ward testified to the Grand Jury yesterday.
As far as the marijuana in his system, other factors could have also contributed to the determination that he was impaired, like witness statements.
If Ward signed a release/waiver of liability it is unlikely that his family has a chance at winning a civil suit.
There is no way of anyone knowing the intent of Tony Stewart. Anyone who thinks there was intent by Stewart to scare or intimidate Ward is an opinion and not a fact of the case.
And Lord Farquaad(chadboi) is a fricking idiot.
The driver from the(45)car that had to swerve to miss Ward testified to the Grand Jury yesterday.
As far as the marijuana in his system, other factors could have also contributed to the determination that he was impaired, like witness statements.
If Ward signed a release/waiver of liability it is unlikely that his family has a chance at winning a civil suit.
There is no way of anyone knowing the intent of Tony Stewart. Anyone who thinks there was intent by Stewart to scare or intimidate Ward is an opinion and not a fact of the case.
And Lord Farquaad(chadboi) is a fricking idiot.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 8:02 pm to TigerFred
Every driver and fan that goes into the pits of a racetrack have to sign a waiver. Regardless of what most stoners think, if the THC was high enough after the incident he had no business in that car. They are hard enough to drive as it is without being under the influence.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:35 pm to MOJO mod
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Regardless of what most stoners think, if the THC was high enough after the incident he had no business in that car. They are hard enough to drive as it is without being under the influence.
But you see, they are desperate to convince you that smoking is on par with drinking water.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:48 pm to TigerFred
My post from other thread
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Im not gonna get into the debate again so when you retort just read original thread for an answer.
No one would have even thiught of the rattle his cage theory if when story wasn't broke on twitter that the guy who was twittering didnt say he heard tony may have tried to scare him.because thay was first thing out on story people Hang on to it as fact and never evolve wjth facts and the story.
1) they didnt make contact. From his field of vision he made the pass and while going down back straight away caution came out. While gearing down on cool down lap while going into turn 1&2 tony has to decide that a guy standing next to his car will be taught a lesson
2) while in middle of a turn the guy starts making way down track. Other cars riding same lane barely avoided him and he wasn't even tryinf to get tk their cars. He was walking towards Tonya car so it would make sense that hr woukd be closest to tony since that he was tryjnf to getting to.
3) while hes walking down in a black suit away from the wreck lets remember this is the first time in a matter seconds that tony js passing the wreck. Doesn't everyone look at thr wreck that brought out a caution? Looking at a wreck while idiot basically comes out of nowhere because the car I'm behind barely missed him and now coming ay me in a moving vehicle is absurd but thinking in that small amount of time that tony Stewart was gonna buzz him to scare him with .3 reaction to think and do it is 100% fact.
I grew up ariund racjbg and my family still does it and we have never seen or heard of this tire buzz to someone standing there bejng used. If yhey are in a car you can but never to a human..so tony had to even think of a cool new technique.
And last just because he was on dirt doesnt make it same as going down to aa baseball. Dirt is a diff beast. Its why when nascar does smaller shows on dirt a lot of nascar drivers go do it. Drivers are just as talented on that track as he was so the god complex of the great Tony Stewart showing kids how its done doesnt hold water. Kenny Schrader and bill Elliot have been in races against us before and finished middle of pack. Its really over blown by people who dont know any better and think driving is driving. If that was case Montoya would own nascar
Posted on 9/25/14 at 7:11 am to TigerFred
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There was a second video that the public has not seen.
The driver from the(45)car that had to swerve to miss Ward testified to the Grand Jury yesterday.
Interesting.
Can you add some details?
Posted on 9/25/14 at 7:12 am to TigerFred
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And Lord Farquaad(chadboi) is a fricking idiot.
Yes he is..
Posted on 9/25/14 at 7:27 am to stevo1905
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Oh Jesus Christ
No, Mary Jane.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:53 pm to Stagg8
"Our son got out of his car during caution when the race was suspended. All the other vehicles were reducing speed and not accelerating except for Stewart, who intentionally tried to intimidate Kevin by accelerating and sliding his car toward him, causing the tragedy. The focus should be on the actions of Mr. Stewart. This matter is not at rest and we will pursue all remedies in fairness to Kevin.”
They know what's up, this isn't going away anytime soon...and Stewart won't dare be deposed and have this go to public trial.
Probably settle with him out of court for millions.
They know what's up, this isn't going away anytime soon...and Stewart won't dare be deposed and have this go to public trial.
Probably settle with him out of court for millions.
This post was edited on 9/25/14 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 9/25/14 at 1:26 pm to MOJO mod
quote:The big NASCAR tracks even have liability waivers printed on the back of the tickets. If you go to Talladega and sit down by the fence, get hit by debris from a car, you signed a liability waiver just by use of the ticket.
Every driver and fan that goes into the pits of a racetrack have to sign a waiver
Posted on 9/25/14 at 1:28 pm to buckeye_vol
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Regardless if it was still active enough to have a clear cognitive impact at the time, it may be evidence that he was prone to poor judgement if he was willing risk impairment just prior to a race.
Wouldn't Tony Stewart being in the race in the first place show he's prone to poor judgment after breaking his leg and costing him his season last year?
Posted on 9/25/14 at 1:30 pm to JG77056
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Wouldn't Tony Stewart being in the race in the first place show he's prone to poor judgment after breaking his leg and costing him his season last year?
Getting injured is an inherent danger in racing. There's no getting around it. Smoking weed before a race is not an inherent danger in racing.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 1:50 pm to TigerFred
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There is no way of anyone knowing the intent of Tony Stewart. Anyone who thinks there was intent by Stewart to scare or intimidate Ward is an opinion and not a fact of the case.
And Lord Farquaad(chadboi) is a fricking idiot.
I think there's intent, i acknowledged that its not enough to build a case around nor is there any way to prove it. You can think everything else about the case you want, i still think Stewart had ill intent. But hell, Ward smoked some weed so therefore Stewart had to have no ill intent.....
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:10 pm to Zamoro10
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All the other vehicles were reducing speed and not accelerating except for Stewart, who intentionally tried to intimidate Kevin by accelerating and sliding his car toward him, causing the tragedy.
Damn, the dimwit's parents said it so it must be true!
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:32 pm to Chad504boy
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I think
Well there's your problem...
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:00 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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Damn, the dimwit's parents said it so it must be true!
Did his parents say anything about their son being stoned while driving?
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