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re: Tony Dungy saddened by blacks not getting more opportunities to be coaches, GMs

Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:14 pm to
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:14 pm to
Andy Reid is an offensive guy.

Lovie is defensive.

Lovie is going to have a tougher time finding a HC job
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27421 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:15 pm to
Meh.

NFL owners are not sabotaging their franchises by not hiring more qualified minorities just because they are minorities.

Gotta admit. I'm fricking tired of this BS and growing weary of affirmative action. Its getting to the point where its a crutch and a way to keep folks divided.


Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
70920 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:16 pm to
quote:

Lovie is defensive. Lovie is going to have a tougher time finding a HC job


Good point. Especially with Goofdell trying to turn the NFL into the CFL or the Arena League.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27421 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:16 pm to
quote:

Andy Reid is an offensive guy.

Lovie is defensive.

Lovie is going to have a tougher time finding a HC job


This. The league is an offensive focused league more than ever.

But but its racism....
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38405 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:18 pm to
Afirmitive action is a crock of shite, no matter what the application. frick anyone who believes you should be "required" to hire someone based on race.
Posted by Ibleedblackandgold
Back in Louisiana where I belong
Member since Jun 2009
2738 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:25 pm to
quote:

Tony Dungy saddened by blacks not getting more opportunities to be coaches, GMs


Boo fricking hoo. Should go to best available person, if that means they are white than deal with it.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61596 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

Tony Dungy saddened by blacks not getting more opportunities to be coaches, GMs


Im saddened there are not more white running backs.


How can we change this

Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28038 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:26 pm to
If Tony feels this strong about it, he should get some African Americans, with money together to buy a team, then hire all the qualified Black coaches he wants.

It's the owners team, he can hire who he wants.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52759 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:27 pm to
What would he think about gays getting opportunities to coach in the NFL?
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:27 pm to
Tony dungy is a terrible father
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

Im saddened there are not more white running backs.


How can we change this


Make them faster, stronger and more athletic?
Posted by WmWallace
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
1820 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:32 pm to
Dungy has been very disappointing as someone who could really inspire others..same old junk unfortunately.
Posted by deathvalleyfreak43
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13222 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:32 pm to
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Tony Dungy saddened by blacks not getting more opportunities to be coaches, GMs




Shut up Tony
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98577 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

"I just know the system is broken."


Other than Art Shell (now dead), Dungy and Ozzie Newsome, blacks in these positions have been less than successful. These are billion dollar properties/investments for these owners, it's not the time to take a flyer because you want to check a box and be progressive.

If anything, it's refreshing there are not a lot of retreads.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52759 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:37 pm to
quote:

Other than Art Shell (now dead)






quote:

blacks in these positions have been less than successful



Tomlin won a Super Bowl. Lovie Smith went to a Super Bowl.


Percentage of successful black coaches versus the percentage of unsuccessful black coaches is probably similar to the ratio of successful/unsuccessful white coaches.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42558 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

Posted by MontyFranklyn
quote:
Im saddened there are not more white running backs.


How can we change this


Make them faster, stronger and more athletic?



I could make a parallel post to this, but I don't want to get the banhammer.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30168 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:52 pm to
You are the owner of a business/team worth millions of dollars....who are you hiring, Reid or Smith? It's Reid and and it isn't even close.

I'll give Reid a mulligan on this season. The death of a family member takes it toll on you, ESPECIALLY when you are in a position where your job requires you to work 20 hr days.

As for Dungy (and the rest of the black community bitching about "not enough opportunities"), he needs to understand that money is above all, including skin color. These owners aren't going to pass up the best candidate because he's black. It wouldn't be in the best interest of their bank account.

Where's the Rooney rule for having equal amounts of white running backs? Wide receivers? Cornerbacks? There isn't any because owners and coaches aren't interested in skin color. They are in the business of winning and making serious money, not judging people by their skin color.

System is broken? What is his definition of fixed? When owners pass up perfectly good candidates to meet some mandated rule because a minority group feels "left out"? Gimme a break.

Comments like Dungy's, are what set us back as human individuals when it comes to racism.
Posted by CRAZY 4 LSU
Member since Apr 2006
16903 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:03 pm to
Roughly 12% of the population is Black
There are three black coaches out of 32 HC postions making it roughly 9%. With Lovie this past year there were 4 making it 12.5%...consistent with the population break down. Now I understand sports are different with more black people having access to the league in general, but from a standpoint of consistently lining up with the nations demographics it makes sense there are significantly less black coaches.

eta. 7 black coaches in 2011 making 21%
2013 is just regression toward the mean
This post was edited on 1/21/13 at 9:12 pm
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
4249 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:06 pm to
Who is the worst RB and/or CB in the NFL?
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