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Posted on 2/14/17 at 6:20 pm to shel311
Fine, you pick the Sonic, but I'm bringing my own onion rings, goddammit!
Posted on 2/14/17 at 6:52 pm to shel311
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And then he averaged 130 yards passing the next 2 games.
In one of those two games, he played a little over one quarter. Be fair.
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His QB rating was basically Jay Cutler, stop with acting like he was the reason it turned around.
As a first-year starter, he was 6th in the league in QB ratings, and finished with a better QB rating that year than Manning did.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 6:58 pm to Gator Mike
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In one of those two games, he played a little over one quarter. Be fair.
Yep. Brady got injured in the 2002 AFC Championship Game. He was 12-18 for 115 yards when he was knocked out of the game in the second quarter. The Patriots won 24-17 and only scored one offensive touchdown the whole game. The other two were off a punt return and blocked field goal.
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 2/14/17 at 7:14 pm to Gator Mike
quote:Ok. But in fairness that further lends to my point that he wasn't the driving factor behind winning that title, so if we can question whether Manning deserves to be recognized as having 2 titles, if Brady missed a half of the AFC CG, that further lends to my point that the same goes for Brady's 1st title.
In one of those two games, he played a little over one quarter. Be fair.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 7:16 pm to RollTide1987
quote:A win with 1 offensive TD...So kinda like the Super Bowl you give him credit for but not Peyton.
The Patriots won 24-17 and only scored one offensive touchdown the whole game.
Gotcha!!!
Fair and balanced!!!
Brady led his offense to 10 points, which is why the last second drive and FG was needed just to get to 13 for the win. But all credit to Brady!!!
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 2/14/17 at 7:30 pm to shel311
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A win with 1 offensive TD...So kinda like the Super Bowl you give him credit for but not Peyton.
1) Brady was knocked out of the game in question early in the second quarter and did not return.
2) Brady at least threw a TD pass in Super Bowl XXXVI whereas all Manning did in Super Bowl 50 was throw an interception that cost his team points and coughed up a fumble that almost put Carolina back into the game. 194 yards of total offense and 11 first downs!
Manning had the worst season of any Super Bowl-winning QB ever in 2015. At least in 2001 Brady finished just outside the Top 5 in passer rating. So yeah....I am fair and balanced. The stats support Brady more so than they do Manning in this particular case.
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 2/14/17 at 7:34 pm to RollTide1987
quote:Old broken Peyton outplayed Brady head to head just 2 weeks before.
2) Brady at least threw a TD pass in Super Bowl XXXVI whereas all Manning did in Super Bowl 50 was throw an interception that cost his team points and coughed up a fumble that almost put Carolina back into the game.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 7:38 pm to shel311
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Old broken Peyton outplayed Brady head to head just 2 weeks before.
The Patriots finished with almost 100 more total yards (336-244) and 8 more first downs (20-12). Brady threw for 310 yards compared to Manning's 176. The difference in the game was turnovers and a missed extra point.
The Patriots lost that game, the Broncos didn't win it.
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 2/14/17 at 7:42 pm to RollTide1987
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The Patriots lost that game, the Broncos didn't win it.
Someone didn't watch the game.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 7:42 pm to RollTide1987
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The Patriots finished with almost 100 more total yards (336-244) and 8 more first downs (20-12). Brady threw for 310 yards compared to Manning's 176. The difference in the game was turnovers and a missed extra point.
You mean Brady's 2 interceptions
Both QBs were bad that day. Brady was getting crushed. He completed less than 50% of his passes and had a passer rating of 56.4
No QB is good with that much pressure
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 2/14/17 at 7:44 pm to RollTide1987
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The Patriots lost that game, the Broncos didn't win it.
dude
The Broncos defense beat the shite out of the Pats. Not to mention that the Broncos also gifted the Pats a turnover resulting in a 22 yard TD drive
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 2/14/17 at 7:45 pm to TigerBait1127
That might be the most delusional thing I've read on this board.
He has lost touch with reality.
He has lost touch with reality.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 7:47 pm to RollTide1987
quote:turnovers, like 2 INTs?
Manning's 176. The difference in the game was turnovers
Posted on 2/14/17 at 7:50 pm to shel311
Not to mention that the Pats had ~150 yards going into the 4th
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:28 pm to TigerBait1127
Brady did play poorly in that game, but by the AFC Championship Game he was down to his fourth string offensive line; Gronkowski (knee strain) Edelman (broken foot), and Amendola (knee sprain) were limited with injuries suffered just weeks before, and his most capable running back (LeGarrette Blount) was out due to a hip injury.
It's a testament to Brady's greatness that they even had a chance to tie the game at the end. If the Pats are healthy on offense for that game, the Patriots win by two touchdowns.
It's a testament to Brady's greatness that they even had a chance to tie the game at the end. If the Pats are healthy on offense for that game, the Patriots win by two touchdowns.
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:29 pm to RollTide1987
I love Tom Brady, mates - it's true!
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:28 pm to RollTide1987
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If the Pats are healthy on offense for that game, the Patriots win by two touchdowns.
Let's forget that they lost to Denver twice that season.
GTFO.
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:33 am to RollTide1987
The sore losers are still out trying to rationalize their failed positions - using their 'data'. Here's some data: Tom Brady will retire with just about every meaningful NFL QB record, including most Super Bowls ever won. Really happy that so many of you recognize that Marino (especially) was a great QB and that the likes of P. Manning and Brees are locks for the HOF, etc., etc., ad nauseam. But history will continue to confirm that the GOAT NFL QB (if not player!) is none other than Tom Brady, your feeble and plaintive arguments notwithstanding.
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