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re: TIGER SPEAKS!! Plus Did Masters' get caught giving leniency to Tiger???
Posted on 4/13/13 at 12:19 pm to Bull11
Posted on 4/13/13 at 12:19 pm to Bull11
Anyone who thinks there shouldn't be a penalty doesn't know the rule. The drop is supposed to be as near as possible. He specifically stated that he intentionally did not drop as near as possible. That means he broke the rule. By the letter of the law he should be disqualified. The hd rule is meant for unreasonable circumstances of rule breaks that the naked eye in real time on a course cannot pick up. It's meant to protect ignorance of the action not ignorance of the rule.
Posted on 4/13/13 at 12:29 pm to Adam Banks
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Anyone who thinks there shouldn't be a penalty doesn't know the rule. The drop is supposed to be as near as possible. He specifically stated that he intentionally did not drop as near as possible. That means he broke the rule. By the letter of the law he should be disqualified. The hd rule is meant for unreasonable circumstances of rule breaks that the naked eye in real time on a course cannot pick up. It's meant to protect ignorance of the action not ignorance of the rule.
I did not say a rule was not broken. I am just saying if the on course official did not catch it, then a caller from home should not be allowed to report it and cause further investigation. So on your eyes, should the official now lose his job for missing it.
Posted on 4/13/13 at 12:29 pm to Adam Banks
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Anyone who thinks there shouldn't be a penalty doesn't know the rule. The drop is supposed to be as near as possible. He specifically stated that he intentionally did not drop as near as possible. That means he broke the rule. By the letter of the law he should be disqualified. The hd rule is meant for unreasonable circumstances of rule breaks that the naked eye in real time on a course cannot pick up. It's meant to protect ignorance of the action not ignorance of the rule.
Banks for President.
Posted on 4/13/13 at 12:31 pm to Bull11
The caller from home was not what caused this. Tiger admitting to breaking a rule is what caused this. I don't think you understand the situation at all. The rule break was on the intention of the ball placement not the placement itself..
Posted on 4/13/13 at 12:33 pm to Adam Banks
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The drop is supposed to be as near as possible. He specifically stated that he intentionally did not drop as near as possible. That means he broke the rule. By the letter of the law he should be disqualified.
So if someone drops a foot from the divot, should they be DQ'ed? I mean, that's obviously not as near as possible. The rule language is just so fricking terrible that I can't believe it even made it into the book. A club length is so much easier to interpret and enforce.
Posted on 4/13/13 at 12:40 pm to KillerNut9
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So if someone drops a foot from the divot, should they be DQ'ed? I mean, that's obviously not as near as possible. The rule language is just so fricking terrible that I can't believe it even made it into the book. A club length is so much easier to interpret and enforce.
If the drop was from as near as possible to not gain a competitive advantage and it rolls to a foot away that's fine. Tiger chose to drop at his original shot but admittedly did not drop as near as possible. I don't see how there's any grey area in that. Originally the officials were giving him the benefit of the doubt. When he explicitly states that his intention as to be feet away from the shot so as to gain an advantage their hands were tied.
This post was edited on 4/13/13 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 4/13/13 at 12:42 pm to Adam Banks
Wait so people really think he was worried about hitting the pin again....
Posted on 4/13/13 at 12:43 pm to C
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Wait so people really think he was worried about hitting the pin again....
Tiger stated that's why he chose the distance he did.
Posted on 4/13/13 at 12:43 pm to Adam Banks
I get what you're saying, but he dropped 3 feet away for fricks sake. I find it hilarious that the golf police are running rampant over this.
Posted on 4/13/13 at 12:45 pm to macatak911
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Tiger stated that's why he chose the distance he did.
Posted on 4/13/13 at 12:46 pm to C
tiger usually has his wedges honed to the inch.
Posted on 4/13/13 at 12:49 pm to Adam Banks
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He specifically stated that he intentionally did not drop as near as possible.
Dude he said he moved it two yards so as not to hit the pin again (Obviously said in jest). Plus you don't think the officials questioned him some before giving their decision prior to the signing of the card.
This only happened bc people freaked out on social media about dropping a ball a couple feet away in the fairway (obviously this wouldve been a bigger deal if rough was involved) instead of a couple of inches away.
Golf needs to tighten up the rule to state a distance and eliminate this problem. Based on your logic if he would have said he dropped 6" to the right of his previous spot instead 6" to the left bc the angle was better then we would be breaking the rules as well!
Posted on 4/13/13 at 12:50 pm to macatak911
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Tiger stated that's why he chose the distance he did.
He obviously said it in jest.
This post was edited on 4/13/13 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 4/13/13 at 12:55 pm to STEVED00
Dudes just a regular comedian about his drops
He obviously put a little more on it then he meant too and he judged that shot for distance on his next shot just as one would get a green read off someone else
He obviously put a little more on it then he meant too and he judged that shot for distance on his next shot just as one would get a green read off someone else
Posted on 4/13/13 at 12:58 pm to STEVED00
So tiger says he drops two yards from original spot. That's six feet folks. On the replay it looks no more then 2 to 3 feet of the original spot. The rule says you drop near the original spot but they need to define near. There are rules that are very specific about two club lengths for drops , why is this one not more specific.
I like that Tiger made his caddy stand in the exact spot he was while he went up and examined the drop area. This tells me Tigers intention was to drop near his original spot.
I like that Tiger made his caddy stand in the exact spot he was while he went up and examined the drop area. This tells me Tigers intention was to drop near his original spot.
Posted on 4/13/13 at 12:59 pm to Adam Banks
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The caller from home was not what caused this. Tiger admitting to breaking a rule is what caused this. I don't think you understand the situation at all. The rule break was on the intention of the ball placement not the placement itself..
Not according to the golf channel interview with course officials. They stated it was not until after 1000 pm est time that a second caller called to report what he said in the interview. This was after your officials had already cleared him of any wrongdoing.
Posted on 4/13/13 at 1:00 pm to PoppaD
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tells me Tigers intention was to drop near his original spot
exactly.
but there are people who are trying to find ways to get him out because he wins too much.
Posted on 4/13/13 at 1:06 pm to PoppaD
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The rule says you drop near the original spot but they need to define near. There are rules that are very specific about two club lengths for drops , why is this one not more specific.
This is my main beef. The rule's language is just very poorly framed and opened to a variety of interpretations (which the MSB is obviously evidencing).
Posted on 4/13/13 at 1:11 pm to Bull11
The point is that the Caller just alerted the officials to an interview where tiger got himself in trouble. It wasn't that a caller called in disputing a subjective rule the caller just brought the interview that the officials would have seen at some point where tiger explicitly says he broke a rule. It's tigers fault. Not any callers.
This post was edited on 4/13/13 at 1:11 pm
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