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Theo Epstein - GOAT

Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:27 am
Posted by doclsu08
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:27 am
Theo Epstein was hired by the Cubs as President of Baseball Operations in October of 11. They've gone from the worst to the best in baseball in that time. Here's a little something to show the progress. It's pretty incredible.

Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50342 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:29 am to
Which guys on the team of significance did he not draft or sign?
This post was edited on 6/20/16 at 10:36 am
Posted by Toula
504
Member since Dec 2006
35399 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:31 am to
I think Baez is old regime. That's about it.
Posted by doclsu08
Member since Nov 2008
826 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:31 am to
Every single active player was acquired after he was hired.
Posted by doclsu08
Member since Nov 2008
826 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:32 am to
You are correct. He was drafted 2011. I stand corrected.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38122 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:36 am to
And Matt Szczur (2010)

Pretty impressive. If he wins a title, there's no question he's the GOAT.
This post was edited on 6/20/16 at 10:37 am
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33939 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:37 am to
Theo's work with the Cubs is far more impressive than his work with the Red Sox when he inherited a loaded 93-win team with Manny Ramirez, Pedro Martinez, Johnny Damon and Jason Varitek. Pretty much the entire Cubs team has been built by him. I can't name a single key guy left over from the Hendry regime. It's been a brilliant run.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60149 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:37 am to
Between his work with Boston and now in Chicago there's no question he's the best in the business IMO
Posted by LL012697
Member since May 2013
3963 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:40 am to
If the guy can end an 86 year drought and a 108+ year drought, hard to say he's not GOAT
Posted by HoLeInOnEr05
Middle of the fairway
Member since Aug 2011
16834 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:49 am to
Billy Beane says hello. Give Beane the kind of money Theo has had and he would build a dynasty.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29157 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:54 am to
quote:

If the guy can end an 86 year drought and a 108+ year drought, hard to say he's not GOAT



At a minimum he goes in the HOF.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60149 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:54 am to
Take a young Barry Zito, Tom Hudson and Mark Mulder away from Billy Beane and how incredible has he really been? I think he's good but they haven't been able to sustain success since those guys left. I realize he has a tough job, but he's not the only GM out there who does.
Posted by CharlieDay
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2016
422 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:58 am to
Without Billy Beane there is no Theo Epstein. He invented him. I still will never understand why Billy didn't cash in on it, but I guess there's more to life than just sports for some. Got to respect that.
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 11:01 am to
quote:

Pretty much the entire Cubs team has been built by him.
Don't forget Jason McCleod. Two of the biggest moves made by these two were trading Andrew Cashner for Anthony Rizzo and acquiring Jake Arrieta (and key bullpen arm Pedro Strop) from the Orioles for Steve Clevenger and Scott Feldman. What an unbelievable job they've done since then, compiling talent upon talent in the minors in not only revamping the talent pool but reinventing the organization's approach in defense, offense and pitching.

They should also get credit for bringing over Chris Bosio, who should get a shite ton of credit for his work with Jake Arrieta, Jason Hammel, Kyle Hendricks, Pedro Strop, Hector Rondon and Justin Grim (and to lesser extents Trevor Cahill, Travis Wood and Clayton Richard).
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95129 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 11:11 am to
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Theo Epstein - GOAT
What a millenial. Michael Jordanberg went 6-0 in World Series as a General Manager
Posted by Dale Murphy
God's Country
Member since Feb 2005
24470 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 11:22 am to
That Jason Hayward signing was definitely a shrewd, underrated move


Yes I realize no one can be perfect but I just once again want to show that I was right. And I'll give myself an upvote to contend with the swarm of downvotes coming my way.
Posted by doclsu08
Member since Nov 2008
826 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:21 pm to
Can't forget about Jed Hoyer either. I think the most impressive thing he's done has been the Anthony Rizzo project. When he was in Boston, he drafted Rizzo. When he went to San Diego, he traded for Rizzo. When he came to Chicago, he once again traded for Rizzo. He saw something in him and wanted to build a team around him; they have done just that.
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5070 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:41 pm to
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Can't forget about Jed Hoyer either. I think the most impressive thing he's done has been the Anthony Rizzo project. When he was in Boston, he drafted Rizzo. When he went to San Diego, he traded for Rizzo. When he came to Chicago, he once again traded for Rizzo. He saw something in him and wanted to build a team around him; they have done just that.


Sounds like a future 30 for 30 - "The one man that believed Rizzo and the rings that they won"
Posted by doclsu08
Member since Nov 2008
826 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:44 pm to
I'd watch it
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11346 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

That Jason Hayward signing was definitely a shrewd, underrated move Yes I realize no one can be perfect but I just once again want to show that I was right.


I don't think you can definitively judge an eight year contract after three months.
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