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re: "The Worst Rule in Football" still needs to be changed.

Posted on 10/6/15 at 6:52 am to
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 10/6/15 at 6:52 am to
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Because to take it a step further, they do use common sense when the penalty is pass interference in the endzone. Then it magically doesn't become half the distance but instead goes up to the 1 yard line.
This right here is "The Worst Rule in Football".
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/6/15 at 7:02 am to
I've always thought a fumble out of the end zone should be the offense's ball back at the defense's 20. Idk why but this always seemed fair. You go back a little because you fumbled but the defense doesn't just magically get the ball.

I've also always WHOLE-HEARTIDLY agreed that the half the distance rules are idiotic. As someone said, the defense can jump offsides all day long with their reprocussions decreasing each time, but the offense is just killed if they have a holding penalty.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 7:03 am to
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different standards for running the ball across vs catching it in the end zone.

What's stupid about this? Folks go full retard about catch rules in the end zone for some reason. When you're running it in you already have possession and only need to break the plane of the goal line. When catching it, you might already be in the end zone but you have to establish the catch first.
Not that hard.
Posted by carhartt
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Posted on 10/6/15 at 7:09 am to
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Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/6/15 at 7:19 am to
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Why do offenses get a first down on 5 yard penalties, when they need 10-20 or even 30 yards to go ? That is the dumbest rule. I don't see defenses getting 4rth downs because pf a hold.


That is the rule I hate the most. Defensive holdings being automatic first downs. Especially considering how ticky tack they are calling it, the defenders can't really do anything after 5 yards or they will likely get called for holding. It's ridiculous they reward automatic first downs with it.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 7:35 am to
Not a dumb rule. When you put it in their end zone, it's their ball.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56384 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 7:37 am to
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The defense doesnt get the turnover anywhere else on the field unless they recover it. Why should their own endzone be this magic turnover territory. SO SO DUMB.



Totally disagree.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 7:38 am to
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The logic of "well the offense shouldnt fumble" doesnt hold water because they are not held to that standard for any of the other 100 yards.
That 100 yards is neutral. The end zones are not. The end zone belongs to a team. When you put it in your opponent's end zone, the ball belongs to them. Best have possession of it if you do that so you can score points.

It's a great, merciless rule.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 7:41 am to
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What's wrong with keeping the rules consistent?
This rule isn't inconsistent.

If the ball is downed in the end zone. That means the ball belongs to someone.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33860 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 7:42 am to
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That 100 yards is neutral. The end zones are not. The end zone belongs to a team. When you put it in your opponent's end zone, the ball belongs to them. Best have possession of it if you do that so you can score points.

It's a great, merciless rule


Upvote. Great point
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 10/6/15 at 7:45 am to
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Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 10/6/15 at 7:47 am to
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Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:43 am to
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Erm, that is legit. A holding call on the 4 yard line shouldn't result in a safety.
Maybe this is half baked, but what if it did?
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32650 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 9:21 am to
I've always had a problem with the offense being able to fumble the ball forward. It pisses me off when the offense fumbles on the other teams 5 and recovers it in the end-zone for a touchdown.
Posted by USAF Hart
My House
Member since Jun 2011
10273 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 9:25 am to
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I still hate the PI spot foul


I honestly don't mind the spot PI foul. I mean if you really think about it, if a corner is getting beat deep and he knows it, he can trip the guy up knowing that he's only giving up 15 yards instead of a touchdown.

Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32650 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 9:25 am to
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This right here is "The Worst Rule in Football".
Yeah I agree with that. If they insist on favoring the spot of the foul then the pass interference penalty should be spot of the foul or half the distance to the goal, whichever is less.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 9:44 am to
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No reason a five yard penalty on 3rd and 30 should be an automatic first down.
If you don't give the automatic first down, then the defense can intentionally commit 5 yard penalties five plays in a row, and hope that the refs miss it once. The idea is that most defensive penalties deprive the offense of the chance to gain first down yardage. If you don't award an automatic first down for certain defensive penalties, then you are encouraging intentional penalties. That's never good.
Posted by SharpDressedMan
Member since Jun 2015
256 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 9:48 am to
What 5 yard penalties result in 1st down? I thought they resulted in replay of down
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 9:50 am to
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The end zone is special just as a basic rule of the game.
No doubt the endzone is special. But is it so special that 1 inch should be the difference between keeping possession with a prime scoring opportunity, vs. losing possession AND essentially being penalized 20 yards?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 9:55 am to
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What 5 yard penalties result in 1st down? I thought they resulted in replay of down
Illegal contact and defensive holding are two 5 yard penalties that give an automatic first down.
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