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re: The threat from ULL to LSU (long)

Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:29 am to
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23066 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:29 am to
ULL will never go to a major conference and thus will never be a legit threat to LSU. They don't have a large enough population to drive TV ratings up and make them attractive to a conference like the Big 12. Your campus area population can be small if you have a statewide following like Texas A&M does. ULL will never have that.

Baton Rouge Metro Population: 820,000 (plus all of Louisiana that watches them)

Lafayette Metro: 277,000 - 479,000 (depending on definition of metro)

The Louisville comparison? 1,334,000
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
19475 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:37 am to
This would be good for both schools. But LSU still leaps and bounds ahead of Oh LA LA.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40798 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:42 am to
quote:

ULL will never go to a major conference and thus will never be a legit threat to LSU.


Never is a VERY long time.

quote:

They don't have a large enough population to drive TV ratings up and make them attractive to a conference like the Big 12.


What is so attractive about Lubbock Texas. Please tell me.....

quote:

Baton Rouge Metro Population: 820,000 (plus all of Louisiana that watches them)

Lafayette Metro: 277,000 - 479,000 (depending on definition of metro)



236,065 (2012)
Lubbock, Population
Posted by RileyTime
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Oct 2008
6929 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:43 am to
The way a school like ULL works is this, they will occasionally have a very good year because they can only reel in middle of the pack talent. At some point they will have an experienced team that can compete because they will have heavy upperclassman teams, much like Stoney Brook did a few years ago.

But they will never be relevant for longer than a season or 2 at a time. They just do not have that capability.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
6069 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:44 am to
You an LSU fan?

If so, why would you attempt to make a point at LSU's expense?

You some kind of message board King Soloman?

LSU is competitive against elite competition including Alabama and the rest of the SEC for that matter.

This isn't about ULL challenging LSU's elite status. It's about ULL's exaggerated since of self masquerading as an improvement project.

I grew up in the Acadiana area and have many friends still located in that area. The LSU hate is real regardless of what some may try to portray on this board. I experienced it first hand for years.
So based on that, I have zero good will towards those dipshit wannabes.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101389 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:45 am to
quote:

What is so attractive about Lubbock Texas. Please tell me.....


The size of the State of Texas, both geographically and population-wise, and a history of playing in a major conference.

I'm not sure it makes Lubbock more "attractive" than Lafayette, just explains the greater relevance of the school from a college athletic perspective.
Posted by tomcat12
Lafayette
Member since Apr 2013
83 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:46 am to
quote:

I have zero good will towards those dip shite wannabes.


Stay classy
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20685 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:47 am to
quote:

I grew up in the Acadiana area and have many friends still located in that area. The LSU hate is real





Watch out for the boogey man
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
6069 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:51 am to
frick ULL : )
Posted by AP83
Cottonport
Member since Sep 2009
2711 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:53 am to
quote:

The size of the State of Texas, both geographically and population-wise, and a history of playing in a major conference.

I'm not sure it makes Lubbock more "attractive" than Lafayette, just explains the greater relevance of the school from a college athletic perspective.


Im not saying ULL should be in the big 12. Conference USA would be fine with me which is why ULL is improving facilities. ULL wanted into Conference USA a few years ago and facilities and budget was one reason they were not accepted. They are trying to improve that so in the future it wont be an issue. But to believe Waco and Lubbock are better tv markets than Lafayette is kind of crazy.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
6069 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:53 am to
Hahahahhaha...inflated sense of self, like I said.
Posted by Cajunese
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
6970 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:54 am to
quote:

This isn't about ULL challenging LSU's elite status. It's about ULL's exaggerated since of self masquerading as an improvement project.


God forbid a school wants to market their facility enhancements.

quote:

I grew up in the Acadiana area and have many friends still located in that area. The LSU hate is real regardless of what some may try to portray on this board. I experienced it first hand for years. So based on that, I have zero good will towards those dipshit wannabes.


You don't think that I've run into a few arrogant LSU fans in the past? But yet, I'm still here having mature, constructive discussions on the topics at hand.

Every fanbase has their share of clowns. That includes both ULL and LSU.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:55 am to
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40798 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:57 am to
quote:

You an LSU fan?

If so, why would you attempt to make a point at LSU's expense?

You some kind of message board King Soloman?


Of the things I have said, what exactly are you questioning? Or are you just pounding your chest to intimidate me? Clear this up for me. I will clear up one thing for you. I am a fan of the state of Louisiana. I don't give a frick what school has success, I am happy for them and there is nothing bad that can come from that. People who have blind loyalty towards their alma mater are just that...Blind. I mean that for both sides. The hate exist in Lafayette, and in Baton Rouge. It's pointless. LSU has this elite mentality, and the come off as snobs. ULL has the frick LSU mentality because LSU and the Legislature "holds them back". It's ignorant.

quote:

LSU is competitive against elite competition including Alabama and the rest of the SEC for that matter.

ok. but you still aren't as good as Alabama in football, and whether anyone wants to admit it in here, this entire thread revolves around football. So there's that.

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101389 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:57 am to
quote:

But to believe Waco and Lubbock are better tv markets than Lafayette is kind of crazy.


This is not exactly the same argument as the marketability of Texas Tech or Baylor versus that of ULL.

The "marketability" of major college programs is not (and should not) be tied to the size of the market of their home towns.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40798 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:58 am to
quote:

The size of the State of Texas, both geographically and population-wise, and a history of playing in a major conference.


You do realize Lubbock is out in the middle of nowhere....a fricking desert.

quote:

I'm not sure it makes Lubbock more "attractive" than Lafayette, just explains the greater relevance of the school from a college athletic perspective.


Let's be honest. Texas Tech wasn't shite until Mike Leach put them on the map. And having Bobby Knight didn't hurt.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101389 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

You do realize Lubbock is out in the middle of nowhere....a fricking desert.


Correct, ergo, their relevance as far as "marketability" is only minimally tied to that.

The state of Texas has 25 million people to Louisiana's 4.5 million, hence the overall point with regard to a base they can draw from beyond their specific locale.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37577 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

ok. but you still aren't as good as Alabama in football, and whether anyone wants to admit it in here, this entire thread revolves around football. So there's that.


Nobody is

LSU is the only program that has competed against Alabama in the last 7 years

It sucks that the best program is right in LSUs division, but being 2nd best to Alabama isn't an insult in any way
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
6069 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:03 pm to
It wasn't a few.

I'm well aware of the sentiment from a significant percentage of the ULL fan base.

ULL can upgrade their name , their facilities and maybe their schedule one day. I have no reason to wish them well in any endeavors and I'm okay with that.
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
Back Home now
Member since Sep 2006
61085 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:05 pm to
I like the University of Louisiana.

Geaux cajuns!
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